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Bold Idea #9: Streetcar by Brian Ulaszewski | Design In Place | 08.03.09 | | Text Size: +
The loss of the Red Car streetcar lines was deemed by readers as one of the worst decisions in the history of Long Beach. The closure of the Red Car meant the loss of streetcar routes along Ocean Boulevard, Broadway, Seventh Street, Livingston Drive, Long Beach Boulevard, California Avenue, Daisy Avenue and obviously the Pacific Electric right-of-way. We once again can develop a local streetcar network that serves Long Beach, one that would augment the Long Beach Transit bus system to enhance capacity, improve efficiency and increase ridership. The original Red Car streetcar lines served the most developed portions of Long Beach, but over a half-century later, culture and the city’s urban fabric have changed, as have the best locations for such large investments in public transportation. Should the streetcar be a tram ferrying visitors between attractions, a shuttle for college students, or should it be a people mover connecting citizens to the city’s jobs and amenities? Is the new streetcar meant to deliver more efficient travel for those with no other transportation options or to encourage drivers to take transit? Not to say that those prioritizes are mutually exclusive, in fact the challenge should be to find a proper balance between various users groups. But in the end Long Beach’s mobility infrastructure should be integrated into its land-use strategy. An intensity of residents, jobs and amenities should exist along these streetcar routes to support their operation and hopefully reduce private vehicle trips within the city. While Long Beach’s streetcar network can expand as ridership grows, a few initial routes seem essential to establishing an effective system. Like most of the bus routes of Long Beach Transit, the streetcar lines would all originate from downtown. From there they would extend into most corners of the city connecting to significant commercial centers, regional transit nodes and large pockets of residents. The Crosstown Line would travel along Magnolia Avenue from the Queen Mary, through the downtown to Anaheim Street where it goes east through one of the most vibrant commercial corridors in the city. From there it travels north along Clark Avenue to Carson Street, where it turns west to travel north on Long Beach Boulevard before turning onto Del Amo Boulevard to its terminus at the Blue Line Station. Along this line riders will be within a five minute walk of four major commercial nodes, CSU Long Beach’s Brooks College Campus, Long Beach City College’s Eastside campus and two of the city’s largest parks. The streetcar system would provide a local connection for the MTA Blue Line via the Top of Town Line running along Atlantic Avenue the entire length of the city, originating at First Street in the East Village to terminate at the Artesia Boulevard MTA Station to the west of Atlantic. This route would have stops adjacent to two hospitals, four neighborhood retail centers and over twenty schools including Compton Community College. The Top of Town Line would serve some of the densest communities while traveling through the heart of the Central Area, Bixby Knolls and North Long Beach. The last link in the chain for the initial streetcar network for Long Beach would be the Midtown Line which connects a number of the city’s major job centers. It would follow the Top of Town Line route out of downtown, going west along Anaheim Street where it travels through the Westside along Santa Fe to then go east on Wardlow Road. From there the route travels past Cherry Avenue to an existing railroad right-of-way to Carson Street where it goes east to its terminus at the city’s largest concentration of retail at the Long Beach Town Center. The Midtown Line will connect riders to jobs in the Downtown, Central Long Beach, the Westside, the two Boeing Facilities and Douglas Park. While not connecting every neighborhood and destination, these three streetcar lines could serve a large portion of the city’s population. Along these initial lines are a substantial opportunities to develop the land-use strategy necessary for the long term growth of transit ridership. If these routes prove popular, new ones can be developed to expand the service area across the rest of Long Beach. For more on Brian's streetcar ideas, read this post from September 2007. Illustration by Andrew Wilson In response to commenter rallenr below, here is a map of some proposed streetcar routes through Long Beach. ![]() Follow the LBPOST.com on our Facebook, YouTube and Twitter pages. Comments
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rallenr Why don't you publish a map? lbresident I honestly don't see much value in this. I'm all for a good public transportation system but I think in socal we need one between cities. Getting from place to place within LB is easy enough already. Dave in Alamitos Beach Eh, you know, this just doesn't feel that bold to me. I do like the idea of electrified public transportation (I assume that's what's contemplated?), but I don't know if streetcars will be the wave of the future. And the difference in streetcars and LB Transit just seems to be different kinds of energy. Now if you'd said we were converting Cherry to horses or bicycles only, now that would be bold (deranged maybe, but bold). An LB Resident that doesn Seriously? Leaving out the almost the entire east side and southeast sounds like you're building some really good public relations. Aren't the the taxes of these residents going to figure prominently in developing the whole thing? Keoman There used to be a streetcar running down first streed from downtown to Loma St. in Belmont Shore, and another running north up Redondo beginning at Redondo and 2nd ("Trolley Park" now). This put the Belmont Shore and Bluff Park Beaches in easy access from downtown and PCH. Your map does not touch South East Long Beach and Belmont Shore. Please consider those areas, too. Keoman Carrol While the idea of streetcar lines is great and the downtown line would even keep me from having to drive my child to & from a Lakewood school, I'm wondering why we steer traffic down Magnolia Ave. a mostly residential street while Pacific just a few blocks east is wide open thru commercial and carries much less traffic by comparison. Nancy it should also get people to shopping and other attractions - like the shore, the carson center, el dorado park - places that will also work on weekends and will attract summer use. I think it is a great idea and if better public transit was available, it would be used. Swimmaven We already have buses, new ones I see, and they are pretty much empty even at rush hour. Street cars are not going to bring in tourists unless there are fun destinations. The closest my husband and I get to downtown is the museum and on Friday when it is free. He wants nothing to do with downtown. To me, there really isn't anything to go down there for. The businesses seem tired and listless, and I will never go into that horrible art supply store again. Interurbans I really like this whole idea of a streetcar network for Long Beach. Many cities smaller than Long Beach have viable workable streetcar systems which help put their cities 'on the map' attracting tourist and adding something special to distinguish them from other more ordinary cities. New technology allow for a much lower cost to build a new streetcar system than a LRT system. The map shown needs a little tweaking but overall it is a great start. The hill on Atlantic north of Willow may be a little steep for a streetcar and Cal State Long Beach, Belmont Shore, Belmont Heights, and East Long beach along 7the St seem to have been omitted. But traffic studies, EIR's and a closer look at possible routes will all be worked out. I really hope that this actually happens and is more than someone dream. I can sure see the Long Beach Streetcar helping businesses along the routes a great deal. What can we long time Long Beach residents do to support this idea and move it forward to the next step? ? As a rider of the old red line cars from Watts to Long Beach and Los Angeles, I welcome this effort to reinstate a local train system in Long Beach. I have been in several European cities all of which have efficient local train systems and well used by the local populations.Hopefully we can even extend this system to include Signal Hill and Belmont Shore. PDQ So....after the Breakwater is sunk and the hordes of people come to the beach, where exactly will they be parking? Since there really is no parking near the beach, wouldn't it be smart to run a line somewhere near the beach to encourage beachgoers to leave their cars at home? On second thought, leave it be. I'm kinda looking forward to watching gridlock take over down at the beach once all these Breakwater opponents finally get their wish for waves in Long Beach. Having grown up in Newport and seen the Balboa Peninsula during the summer I know exactly what's coming. Paul Don't be fooled by this. It is part of a far left liberal plan for high density low income housing near transportation links. This plan has been tossed around for decades. Brian and his pals think that social services are an economic engine for the city and want the city to be something like NEW YORK CITY. Brian thinks that way because of the liberal education that he has, a good one, I am sure, but he needs a few more years of experience in the real world. Also, to break away from the group that wants to turn this town into Oakland South. Charlie NOPE - it does nothing for me... Flaco in Bluff Park This is silly. A-Bus and D-Bus work for me. I also use 131 and 121/2. I need more options? We need tracks messing up the streets? Lou Goofy idea, just plain goofy!!! Let's spend hundreds of millions of dollars to build a rail system that replicates a much cheaper bus system that few ride now. Brian, ask yourself: why do people take public transportation? A. 1) No car (in So Cal the predominate answer; or 2) Public transportation is quicker, or more convenient (parking not available or prohibitively expensive.) (East Coast & Europe) This idea does not serve either of the latter issues. Go back to the drawing board!!! WHS You really should look at the old Red Car lines. The Willowville Newport Beach line was great as were the trolleys that ran down Redondo, Livingston, Ocean, and 1st Street. Broadway was a freight yard for the old SP / PE lines. There were also trolleys to San Pedro and Wilmingyon. LBLifer This map makes no sense. It goes through mostly low income residential areas already connected with our new, expensive, hybrid transit buses. It does not connect to the airport, Long Beach State, Belmont Shore or even travel along the ocean for that matter. I'm for a limited light rail system that would encourage more tourism and travel between Belmont Shore to Downtown and the Queen Mary. But this doesn't come close. DTComposer I'm a rail supporter, but I don't think streetcars are the answer at this time. That being said, if you're going to invest in this kind of a system, to not connect it to some of the major employers, retail centers, recreational opportunities, and unique Long Beach experiences is foolish. Why doesn't this plan connect to Epson, the port, VA Hospital, CSULB, Belmont Shore, Naples, 4th Street, El Dorado Park, Marina Pacifica, the airport, Bluff Park, Bixby Park, (in fact, the entire shoreline), etc? And if I'm reading the map correctly, the Queen Mary line doesn't connect directly to Pine? Expand the Passport lines, make them entirely free, figure out some added value (live music and wine on a shuttle, I don't know) to make them interesting and unique. See if ridership picks up. If you really want more rail, add a loop to the Blue Line from the Wardlow or Willow Station to the airport, CSULB, Belmont Shore and the Transit Mall. Angel It is always Good to think Out of the Box! If special funding could be found from Washington DC and if there exists definite need to connect more local regions and business/shopping areas of the city, with safe/ environmentally clean transportation, then why not explore it further! Michael This is ridiculous. GM dismantled the Red Cars because it was better for them to sell cars and buses. The private sector always knows what's best, so before any tax money is used we need to ask CEO's what the smartest move would be. Dennis It's just a bus that costs more to construct and implement, what's the point. Why would someone not riding a bus now decide to ride a street car, because it has tracks? Unfortunately things with tracks in this country are giant black holes sucking up public funds, see MetroRail and Amtrack. Having spent several years living in Europe I am aware of the benefits of public transport of all types, the difference is the people there use it because they want to and it is clean, safe and convenient. The problem with U.S. public transit is that pols and policy makers want to force people to use it, and they don't and it drains significant funds from public treasuries. ruserious? Totally absurd. Belmont Shore, 4th St "Retro Row", "Broadway Corridor", MarketPlace, Marina Pacifica, potentially "wonderful new development" at 2nd/PCH, El Dorado Park and so much more have been left off this route? I thought the idea was supposed to be "Bold". To bring the city together with unique, eyepopping, transportation. This is a joke. It's mold, not bold. usroute66 Long Beach is one of the easiest cities to get around now with LBT. I live at Temple/4th and use LBT to go to Pine/Shoreline Village to eat, or to Belmont Shore to party. I have a car and hardly use it. The streetcar plan completely misses Ocean Ave. An original route used Broadway to Redondo to 7th and back to downtown on 7th. The tracks are still under the Redondo pavement. The green streetcar line on the map parallels the Blue Line. There should be major east/west streetcar lines that feed the existing Blue Line, not parallel it. Fish O Plenty What is the deal with this red rout. It successfully avoids Los Altos shopping center, Cal State, VA Hospital, LB Airport and Lakewood Center. Phyllis I'm not certainthe routes are perfect, but, it is certainly sometinng to consider seriously. The Blue Line, Red Line and Gold Line have great ridership. As for DC abd other cities, their light rail systems are great. I have used them in Boston, New York, Baltimore, D.C., Philadelphia, Chicago and Phoenix, Denver, San Francisco and Portland. They work, people use them, they are easy for out of towners and they blend with the other forms of local transportation. I love the idea, explore it more. Brian Many of you have good points regarding potential routes, truthfully I know by current bus ridership levels that these initial lines as described would be well used. I do agree another line that sweeps across the city south of the Crosstown line and further east of it as well. The Spring 09 edition of Next American City had a great article about hobbyists who develop imaginary rail networks for cities. tahoevalleylines Paramount importance is ability to replicate Pacific Electric methodology: ability to move in victuals and necessities of life,, general freight in & out on same (or segment of) rail line. This is the genius of the PE generic rail concept. The closing in of the oil supply limit is telling us to move with all due haste to emplace transit that doubles for trucking now taken for granted. See spv.co.uk for local rail lines extant and of the past. See books on PE methodology. For overview/compendium of renewable and mobility matchups, see "ELECTRIC WATER", Christopher C. Swan (New Society Press, 2007). Richard Heinberg is a good source for footnoted information on the near/midterm energy emergency. Do your due diligence and be the calm one in the room when the Federal Executive orders for rationing hit us on the morning news. Please see (peakoil.net) articles 374 & 1037 for larger view of railway mode policy points. Kenny I'm all for mass transit and would personally love to see a plan of this sort come to fruition. Unfortunately the car culture is so ingrained in Southern California I can't see this gaining the necessary public support. Unless of course gas prices spike to $5.00 or more. Only then would a plan such as this become a more viable option. Here's to hoping I'm wrong. Kenny Also, thanks for this set of articles...it's a great forum to throw around ideas that could potentially change this city for the better. TBL Long Beach, like many cities in the greater LA area, would greatly increase the quality of life of its residents by improving is public transportation. Public transportation is not only good for the environment, but it also brings people within a city closer together, therefore enhancing a sense of community. In contrast, cars tend to isolate people from their surroundings. I think improving Long Beach's public transportation options is a "no-brainer". Greggory Sure, this doesn't SEEM shockingly bold, and sure, it's not SO hard to get from place to place in LB, but one of the quantifiable factors keeping LB from being a destination city from other SoCal areas is that LB is not well integrated, at least to the uninformed. The bus service is average (save the Passports in the downtown area), and the Blue Line is better than nothing but not much qua intra-LB transit. Make sure this includes there are a couple of hubs with parking, and adding a streetcar system is a potential game-changer, especially as we wait hopefully for LB's nicer areas to spread and join. rallenr Why another transit mode? LB already has 1) ordinary bus transit, 2) the Passport bus shuttle, 3) taxis and 4) light rail. Streetcars are notorious for tying up (already congested) surface traffic as has been long proven in San Francisco. And their grandest problem is inflexibility -- once tracks are laid, they can't be rerouted with additional infrastructure added. Neither are they especially fast, especially considering the number of stops that are probable. Then consider costs -- streetcar systems cost, very approximately, about $85 million/mile -- a ridiculous amount when compared to adding (just as clean) CNG buses onto the existing street grid. You should also not forget that streetcar systems require overhead ("catenary") wiring for power -- consider the visual intrusion that would cause (again consider SF as that city is covered with these cabling systems for streetcars and their electric trolley buses). The streetcar routing you've drawn to the Queen Mary will not likely go across that bridge, either, or negotiate the labyrinth of streets and ramps in that area. Nor would a streetcar provide service any faster than the Passport bus which already services the area. For more on how streetcars did NOT work as well as everyone thought in Portland: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=8643. Brian Rallenr,I am not sure where you are getting your construction costs considering the most recent streetcar projects ranged between $2 and $12 million. I would not go around citing O'Toole considering his primary financial backers. I do not entirely discount what you have to say, read http://www.lbpost.com/brian/521 Coby There would have to be more discussion regarding the routes - we've already seen a number of comments that caught some issues with the routes above - but I really like the concept. I would simply argue for a monorail rather than a streetcar. It is FAR less expensive per mile, works much better in built-out environments, can be amazingly versatile, and improves rather than blights an area. I'm sure we all can picture how the Disneyland monorail is woven into the park and even looping within other rides - the footprint needed is minimal. Haiku Frank We don't need streetcars./We already have transit./It's called the Passport. Kenny Rallenr, I'm surprised you are using SF and Portland as examples of the problems with mass transit as both cities are widely considered to be the two most successful cities on the West Coast primarily due to their great mass transit systems. Irrelevant posting...
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Brian Ulaszewski practices architecture, planning and urban design in Long Beach, projects ranging in size and scope from city master planning to small loft conversions. He has a background in architecture, historic preservation, transportation and land-use planning. Brian is a member of the Long Beach Design Forum and a board member of the Gateway Cities Affordable Housing Coalition. (photo credit: Russ Roca)
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