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Greggory's Midterm Medpot Grades
by Greggory Moore | No Destination | 11.23.09 |
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One might say that the Long Beach City Council meeting of November 10th, 2009, was historic for the city, as we took one small step on the never-ending journey to better treating illness, minimizing suffering, and being increasingly rationally compassionate by taking a big one toward getting a city policy that says: Medical marijuana available here. (Must be a qualified patient. Terms and conditions may apply.)

One might also say that it was a frigging mess, as the meeting became bogged down in a substitute substitute spiral of motions, recommendations, requests, we've got a motion on the floor, will you make that a friendly amendment, what committee, committee, I withdraw my, point of order, committee?

But this is the way we're moving forward. To this point we had put the issue on the table and gotten a draft ordinance—in many ways, a pretty crappy one. [Right here is where I'd insert some metaphor about dung being fertilizer, from whence springs etc., if I could think of one. It would be a great transition to the next paragraph.]

"This is messy democracy at its best," said Daniel Brezenoff, First District Councilmember Robert Garcia's legislative analyst. "I'm very proud of the Council. They worked together so well tonight in tackling this difficult issue. The way the City is moving forward on this is encouraging. We're moving towards a rational and balanced public policy with courage and reason and cooperation. The councilmembers, the city attorney, the city prosecutor, the members of the public who came out and spoke—all deserve to be commended."

But even if our current vector seems positive, do all of the principals deserve equal credit? Well, they say you can't tell the players without a scorecard. So let's (mix the metaphor and) go to school!

City Attorney: D
Robert Shannon submitted a draft ordinance completely disdainful concerning patient privacy, in the meeting defending it on probably legally flawed but certainly morally dubious grounds—basically: Don't worry—I think we can get away with stripping away patient privacy more or less completely. Then there's the giving police free rein to harass collectives. Bored? Pop into a collective and demand to see their video—no reason required! Etc. ad nauseam. Cristyl Myers soft-pedaled the disdain. Moreover, apparently hypnotized by L.A. County District Attorney Steve Cooley (who just said he'll be looking to bust any collective selling medicine even if a city council passes an ordinance saying sales are okay—that guy gets an F, for sure!), their whole office is operating under the (mistaken, I believe) theory that all sales of marijuana are illegal under state law—and therefore they don't want Long Beach to get one penny in tax revenue. Oh, and there's this little bit at the end—7.87.100(D), to be exact—that says collectives can be shut down for breaking federal law . . . which, of course, includes dispensing marijuana for medical reasons. Sneaky. So why not an F? Because at least part of the reason they wrote what they wrote is at the behest of others. And at least they wrote something. And they'll go back and write something better. But we'll get to that.

City Prosecutor: C-
Tom Reeves could get no higher than a C from me because many of his recommendations for the ordinance were shameful (he's no big fan of patient privacy, for starters) and his anti-medpot bias feels spooky (e.g., his apparent belief that a background that led him to be Long Beach chair of the "McCain for President" campaign couldn't possibly have shaped his feelings and interpretation of medpot and its laws (during our Beer & Politics debate, he interpreted my suggestion that it might as my asserting that "Republicans are evil"); "dope." But he made mostly cogent points during the brief bit of time he spoke, particularly as concerns the logistics of implementing any and all parts of whatever ordinance we end up with. It sounded almost as if he were saying: The more restrictive you make it, the more resources it will take to enforce—and you ought to weigh that in choosing your restrictions. It didn't sound like an argument for or against—just the facts, ma'am.

First District
: A-
Garcia gets it. He very politely pointed out a host of problems—the privacy thing, the unfettered police access, that it would be unreasonable to patients not to give collectives a grace period to become fully compliant with the ordinance once it becomes law. . . . It was his substitute motion that unanimously passed: the City Attorney is to provide another draft, with various parts of the ordinance to be removed, more cuts to come, more suggestions to be incorporated. The minus is for being a bit too polite in moments—but that's his thing.

Second District: C
Suja said very little. It was the head cold, maybe. Or the attempt to straddle the political fence. (Keep in mind, for example, that of the four co-sponsors of the Aug. 4 recommendations that led to the draft ordinance, only Suja refused to comment on whether she wanted patient names to be turned over to the City.) Thanked the many members of the public who spoke on the issue, takes the concerns very seriously—something like that. Odd choice of Eskimo boots with the long flouncy skirt and nice black blouse. But they looked comfy. Hey, I get comfy. I just wish her love of comfort didn't extend so far as trying to glide under the radar on this one. (Kind of ironic, considering that her silence seems to indicate she’s reluctant to allow patients to say off-radar.)

Third District: C+/B-
I guess I expected much worse from Gary DeLong (just as I hoped for better from Suja), but almost all parts of his original motion were incorporated into Garcia's. When I heard him listing them off, I was surprised. He might have had a chance for a solid B (although I suspect he might have come to the meeting planning to earn a C-/D+, then gotten wise to how things were going and tacked to the left), but he was liking that bit about police getting to look at the security video for no damn reason at all. Without meaning to, he got the biggest laugh of the night by asserting that in analogous situations (although there really aren't any—that's part of the goof) he has never heard of a single case of police abuse. Bonus: He was the butt or a great line from District 7 (see below).

Fourth District: I (Incomplete)
I don't think Patrick O'Donnell said ten words. I think he came to the meeting expecting to get an F or something, then heard what was going down and decided the best thing he could do was keep quiet.

Fifth District: C
About 48 hours earlier Ms. Schipske had mentioned the possibility of one of her proposed additional recommendations leaving Long Beach medpot patients with no collectives allowed within city limits: "With the proliferation of dispensaries in L.A. County, they [could] get it elsewhere." But she acted as if this had never come to her mind—since on this night clearly it was a foregone conclusion she would never get it—and instead talked about the importance of making sure patients are allowed edibles. (It turns out it's probably not the case that anyone was trying to prohibit these. Several of us may have been confused by the language on this point.) She definitely bogged the process down near the end, and her position on the overall issue is iffy, but what are ya gonna do?

Sixth District: B?
I'm not sure what Dee Andrews knows about this issue, but he's not paid to be a pharmacologist nor a lawyer, but to do right by his constituents. He didn't say much, but his heart seems clearly in the right place: I think he wants patients to get whatever medicine they need. Period. 'Nuff said.

Seventh District: ??? + half a letter grade
Ms. Uranga was definitely one of the boggers-down, and her issues seemed to be all over the map—so much so that I can't guess right now at how much of the ground she trod was covered for political reasons and how much for humanistic ones . . . nor how much even she is sure of her footing in either area. But you also get the sense that at the end of the day she is interested in helping patients. Extra Credit: Tonia, too, was surprised that DeLong had so much to say, so many concerns, "considering that you were on the committee [that helped develop the draft ordinance] and didn't say any of this." Funny. (Note: I may not have gotten her exact words right.)

Eighth District: A-/B+
Gabelich did some of the bogging herself, but at one point, in a very quiet, no-frills, businesslike manner, went down through the ordinance, reading for the City Attorney her long list of objections, what she'd like eliminated—striking out most all of the offending passages. Her intentions seem clear.

Ninth District: A+++++++++++++
Val Lerch had to wear two hats—neither of which he liked. In the absence of the mayor (Saudi Arabia, for some reason), Vice-Mayor Lerch had to run the meeting, a meeting that was a bear to run because of its messiness being of that aforementioned frigging magnitude. It was also a meeting that Val, in the most human moments of the entire proceedings, made it clear that, in the big picture, was patently ridiculous—no: offensively ridiculous—to be having, to need to have at all. I'd rather not directly quote anything he said, because you should go here and hear it for yourself; but he stated what is obvious to reasonable people: Marijuana helps people, so dispense it like you do all other medicine . . . which, by the way, is most always far more dangerous than marijuana . . . which, by the way, is far less dangerous than alcohol, which we sell everywhere (e.g., near schools) just for the hell of it, etc. This may not have seemed directly germane to the issue at hand . . . except that it really, really is. Nonetheless, he had that other hat, so he quietly exchanged the two, took back the leadership of this meeting he wanted to part of, got the motion, got the vote, let's move on to the next step.

The Local Media: C
It was reported right here on LBPost.com and elsewhere that a draft ordinance was passed—and basically you had to have left the council chamber or fallen asleep before the end of the meeting to believe that, because it's absolutely not the case. In fact, you have to search pretty carefully to find an account that doesn't contain at least a few factual errors. Then you find the occasional report like the Beachcomber's Nov. 20 article, which gets the very few details it mentions about the meeting right but dedicates about half the column inches to whatever medically suspect "information" the author could dig up about how bad bad bad marijuana is for you, relying almost exclusively on two sources: a columnist with a degree not in medicine but in "Education for General Purposes"; and a book that touches upon marijuana only by way of an examination of the minds of mass murderers and serial killers. I mean, really? Generally you don't find any so-called reportage that irresponsible, but sensationalism is in the air. The good news? The coverage is there. If we can just get it all unbiased (unless the author is willing to admit his/her bias) and accurate (which it can be even if the author is biased—a case I'd like to think holds here).

***

An integral part of this moment in this journey was the small mass of humanity that came out (as they have done and will continue to do) to speak to this matter—patients, caregivers, collective management, scientists, attorneys, concerned citizens, et al. It's not clear exactly what the eventual city laws on medpot would look like sans our participation in the process; it's clear generally that they would be a helluva lot worse than they will be when all is said and done. It's a lesson in how things change. Participate in the process, and you're more likely to see the changes you want (or at least to get better changes than you might have gotten otherwise). You have every right not to participate and then whine about how things would be a lot better if the world were more like you think it ought to be. But you also have every right to make an effort to give yourself less to whine about. And the chances to do so are everywhere. Sometimes all you need to do is show up.


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Cooley/Shannon/Reeves - A
At least they have the guts to uphold the law against these illegally operating dispensaries. And as for the pot users - they are not patients entitled to any privacy. Most of them just use some injury to make an excuse to get pot legally when standard pharmaceuticals would do just as well. Obama Admin - F No guts to enforce the Federal laws which make selling pot a felony Greggory Moore - F If California and its cities want to encourage the violation of federal laws so be it. The feds should continue raiding these dealers. If you want this policy to change you should do it the legal way which is to get congress to change the law. I don't see how this is much different from California and Long Beach saying that it is now legal to not pay Federal Taxes and the Feds not doing anything about it. Main Point - The law should be upheld or changed, not ignored.

Greggory
Cooley/Shannon/Reeves: You three are not supposed to assign yourself grades. See how I didn't grade myself? That's the ethical thing to do. But concerning the grades you assigned to others: How dare you, sirs! Between us Obama and I have never gotten a single F in our lives!

observer
I think these grades are right on. The first commenter obviously has no knowledge about medical marijuana, the history of executive nullification, or the dangers and side-effects of pharmaceuticals, and doesnt care to know either. Just more reactionary, 1950's-style aggressive ignorance from the rightwing. Whatever - there on the losing end of history on this issue. Thanks, Mr Moore

I Live Here
I give the Council a "D" for neglecting it's other responsibility: to protect the health and safety of it's neighborhoods. Instead, it was lulled and influenced primarily by the parade of care givers and patients who spoke of their "medical needs" and "compassion." There was little discussion of the "needs" of the rest of the neighborhood and "compassion" for those of us dealing with the negative impacts of the dispensaries. Let me say before I proceed further that I voted to allow med pot use, but that I am terribly disappointed and disillusioned with the result. My neighborhood is over-run with these "dispensaries" and their impacts have undermined our efforts to create an attractive, clean and safe community. The problem has gotten so bad that our street is now being called "pot row." Some dispensaries in other places may be operated responsibly, but the ones in our neighborhood have done nothing but drawn riff-raff, trash, crime and parking impacts to our area. The dispensaries want to be treated like legitimate medical providers, but it doesn't appear that any are operated as such. They should be run by trained, qualified pharmacists, the manufacturing and potency of the marijuana should be regulated and they should have operating hours and restrictions similar to other pharmacies. But based on my observations of the "dispensaries" in my area, the intent isn't really to provide compassionate care, rather it's to sell pot. Fine. If legalization is the goal, then let's add taxes and location restrictions to the aforementioned regulations. But you can't have it both ways - it's either a legitimate medical use or it's a legal, recreational drug like alcohol. Right now, despite all the "patients" that make their appearances at Council meetings - the latter seems to be what's really going on. So let's just cut to the chase and remove the façade of medical purpose. Let's create regulations that anticipate legalization and make sure that first and foremost we protect the health of our neighborhoods. At the end of the day, pot won't kill you, but it sure isn't a miracle drug either. By the way, I give the public a "C" for participation. We should all take the extra effort to participate in the process, but this can be challenging when many folks work in OC or LA. And given the economy, I understand the reluctance to cut out of work early. Perhaps the Council should consider public input mechanisms that allow a greater number of their constituents the opportunity to participate.

Greggory
I Live Here: In defense of the whole Council and all the rest, while they may be late to the party, at least now they ARE trying "to protect the health and safety of it's neighborhoods" -- some, unfortunately, at the expense of patients (though, fortunately, they do not look likely to get their way on that score). Their failure to create and implement an ordinance prior to now was decidedly NOT because of the influence of patients and caregivers -- because most ALL of them have wanted an ordinance all along...just one that protects their rights of access, privacy, etc. You were right to vote in favor of medpot, and you are not necessarily wrong to be displeased with some of the results. You're also right that out-and-out legalization would remedy the majority of the problems, plus add tons of tax revenue to our coffers. And again you're right that any ordinance should anticipate legalization. Really, the only thing I'd suggest you reconsider is your seeming overgeneralization of collectives and patients, as I get the feeling you think you can tell just by looking who receives genuine medical benefits from cannabis and who just wants to get high. Cannabis has a wide range of medicinal benefits -- although I agree, it's not a miracle drug -- and it can be as valuable for keeping certain conditions in check (thus preserving the good health of some) as it can be for alleviating the tremendous suffering of very grave illnesses.

Aldra
I couldn't agree more with this response: "Really, the only thing I'd suggest you reconsider is your seeming overgeneralization of collectives and patients, as I get the feeling you think you can tell just by looking who receives genuine medical benefits from cannabis and who just wants to get high." It's not uncommon to confuse personal experience and/or opinion with universal truth, but it's simply not correct. It's unfortunate that some neighborhoods have had difficulty with dispensaries (my neighborhood is afflicted with ghastly crap food chains, but I digress), but painting the whole picture the color of your neighborhood probably isn't the best approach. And Tripolar Cooley/Shannon/Reeves? Where is your source for this assertion? "...they are not patients entitled to any privacy. Most of them just use some injury to make an excuse to get pot legally when standard pharmaceuticals would do just as well." Do you have any actual evidence supporting such claims or are you just ranting stereotypes and false assumptions? 'Cuz last time I checked, it's better to base opinions on fact rather than speculation and irrational emotional responses. ANYHOO, these meetings need to start later and my fellow Americans need to calm down and stop trying to control strangers. Seriously, Long Beach. Oy.

observer
I LIVE HERE: "They should be run by trained, qualified pharmacists," Not gonna happen without state and/or federal law changes. That's not the city's purview and the city cant do this. "the manufacturing and potency of the marijuana should be regulated" talk about a can of worms! Not gonna happen. " and they should have operating hours and restrictions similar to other pharmacies." This is in the proposed ordinance before council. Arent you paying attention? I'm not sure what you are mad about. ***The council has taken up the task of addressing your concerns about neighborhood impacts.*** Were you thinking that would take 3 days or something? Democracy is slow and messy. Wait until the end of january when an ordinance should be done and then decide if you need to start complaining. I think there was plenty of opportunity for public input - not just at council, but by email and phone. The fact is, I think most people just dont see the big deal. You keep talking about impact but you give no examples, except you dont like the people you see, and parking. But this could be said about almost any business. Just get over it - medical marijuana is here, some people will abuse it (just like some people abuse prescrption drugs) and the direct impact on you is nada. Try focusing on your own life!

I Live Here
Mr. Greggory: My comments address my experience specifically with the patrons and dispensaries in my neighborhood (there have now been 6 of them here over the past 2 years). I did mention in my post that "some dispensaries in other places may be operated responsibly..", I honestly wish that was my experience. Observer: My neighborhood has been battling nuisance dispensaries for the past 2 years, hence my frustration with the process. Thanks in large part to the active efforts of neighborhood residents, LBPD and the DEA two have been shut down in our area. Having a strong ordinance in place sooner would have eliminated a lot of problems for our community. You requested specific impacts: littering (rolling papers, blunt wrappers, broken pipes, empty baggies), breaking and entering (the intruder was convinced a neighbor's place was a dispensary - PD was called and he was arrested), loud noise/stereo systems late at night, speeding cars, loitering, public intoxication, trespassing on and parking in private property, smoking pot in public and on someone else's property. The poorly operated dispensaries in my area affect everyone in my neighborhood by undermining it's cleanliness, safety and aesthetics. This is a real impact for those of us who want to feel safe in and proud of our neighborhood/home. Perhaps you don't value these things as important, but that doesn't make them any less legitimate.

LB Live Here Too
I live near several restaurants and bars and I could describe the same things and worse. Broken glass, cigarette butts everywhere, no parking, loud music, public intoxication, and violence. These are just all part of living in a big city, they have nothing to do with medical marijuana. Also, I don't get the idea behind having a pharmacist in charge, where do you think ALL prescription drug abusers go to for their drugs? Do some research instead of whining, it's been done. The Farmacy in LA was opened by a real pharmacist. There are several articles about that dispensary.

I Live Here
LBLiveHereTo: I disagree with your premise that living in an urban environment means accepting illegal activity - regardless of it's source (restaurant, bar or otherwise). Is such activity more common in a city? Yes, but that doesn't make it right, OK or acceptable. With regard to pharmacists running pot clinics: my point was that they be run in a professional manner. The issue was not that a pharmacist could control whether or not the drug was abused. And if there's a pot clinic somewhere that's run by a pharmacist and can serve as a good example, then great - perhaps that's a model that the City should review. Finally, as for your comment about "whining" - I was simply expressing my opinion. Doing so common in civil discourse.

I live Here Too
I Live Here: It’s not a premise it’s a fact, all major cities tolerate more activity then Main street USA. Have you ever lived in an apartment? Sometimes you have to tolerate nose. I would like perfectly clean air, but I live in a city. I know that comes with the package, I would be deluded if I expected otherwise. The same goes for your premise, it’s just not a realistic expectation for the minor complaints you have. With regard to pharmacists running pot clinics, again, if you did your research, or read my post it’s already being done. You seem to assume all dispensaries as unprofessional when it’s obvious you have probably never been in one to make that judgment call. Again, do some research, try YouTube if you want to see what they look like inside and how real dispensaries are run. They are not crack houses, you might be surprised. Search for “The Farmacy”

Reeverse
Why havent you guys covered this story yet: http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_14051527 Usually you are on top of it but why no mention here?

No Destination
Greggory Moore examines Long Beach in light of his belief that the most pragmatic aim of a community and its individuals is not for a terminus but simply to be better, always to be better.

Trapped within in the ironic predicament of wanting to know everything (more or less) while believing it may not be possible really to know anything at all, Greggory Moore is nonetheless dedicated to a life of study, be it of books, people, nature, or that slippery phenomenon we call the self. And from time to time he feels impelled to write a little something. He lives in a historic landmark downtown and holds down a variety of word-related jobs, from HOA minutes-taker to copy editor and contributing writer for The District Weekly.

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