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How to Handle Destitute Customers?

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3:45pm | Although I'll never choose a chain coffeehouse when there's a viable indie option, because it was a Sunday night and it looked like rain (when motorscootering is no damn fun), I walked up Pine Avenue to the It's a Grind and took a big chair by the fireless fireplace.

Before too long a homeless woman I'd seen outside had made her way in from the cold, nighttime air. After much deliberation she purchased a coffee and plopped herself down in the chair next to me.

That she occasionally mumbled to herself did not bother me. That from time to time she fell victim to liquidy coughing fits did, especially since she covered her mouth only half the time. As discreetly as possible I moved my coffee from the table in front of me to the raised hearth to my right. I thought about moving, but ended up I staying put and started work on an unrelated story that will subsequently appear in this space.

I was sidetracked from that story to this one by what happened maybe 15 minutes later, when a red-jacketed Downtown Long Beach Associate Guide walked in, then leaned over to the woman and politely indicated that the It's a Grind staff had asked that the woman leave. The woman did so without complaint.

I sat there and watched this happen, and I don't feel especially good about that. I wanted to say something, but I wasn't sure what. "She's not bothering anybody" came to mind, although this wasn't entirely true, as it had been readily apparent that I was not the only one who had been bothered by her presence and especially the coughing (which, I should clarify, was nasty but by no means constant).

Another reason I stayed silent was my awareness that It's a Grind, like every restaurant and similar establishment, reserves the right to refuse service to anybody. And however much refusing service on the basis of (e.g.) skin color does not qualify as legal grounds on which an eatery can eject someone — recall, for example, legal action taken against Denny's in the 1990s for allegedly discriminating against racial minorities — in this case the staff was reacting to their customers' discomfort.

I'm just not so sure they should have. Yes, she was coughing now and then, but hey, you're going to be around that from time to time in public places, where it is often enough the case that people from probably lovely homes don't cover their mouths so well, either.

And yes, her homelessness had left her appearance unkempt, but she was not malodorous in the least.
I talked with the It's a Grind employees later and found that they had acted in response to a customer complaint1 about the woman's coughing (perhaps fair enough) and smell (a fabrication, whether intentional or otherwise). The employees indicated that they did not feel good about having called the guides, but said this was policy.

"If a customer complains," one of them told me, "that's basically the end of it."

Being bothered by the homeless in one way or another is probably pretty close to universal. For starters, you don't have to hold homeless persons blameworthy or somehow beneath you to be offended by the very notion itself: That a country with such obscene wealth allows so many of our brothers and sisters to fall between the cracks.

Less idealistically, you may be spiritually troubled by the sight of a homeless person. Even if I do give the occasional gift of cash or food, it certainly pricks my conscience that I get to enjoy bourgeoisie comforts (the laptop computer into which I type these words, the health care that allows me to seek treatment for a bad cough, the diurnal dose of hot shower and clean clothes that helps me appear in such a way that no establishment will exercise against me their right to refuse service) while fellow humans in my sight go looking for a dumpster and a heating duct for food and warmth. To some degree, even for those of us with what we might call a conscience, out of sight equals out of mind.

Are any of these, alone or in combination, good reasons to keep the destitute out of your place of business, or eject them even when they have already lain their good money down to buy your goods and services? I don't pretend to know the answer.

What I do know is that I like going out for a cup of coffee and a sit, coming in from the cold to read or write or people-watch. God knows what additional sanctuary might be signified for me by It's a Grind, Portfolio, etc., were I not someone with a perfectly good coffeemaker in a perfectly nice home.

I also know that I don't feel good about that to which I bore mute witness tonight. I don't know where it falls on the spectrum of right and wrong; it just doesn't feel good.
 
Footnote

1Interestingly, the complaint was not lodged by one of the three of us sitting proximate to the woman.

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Paul
Go to Orange County then you won't have all of the guilt feelings.
Jennifer
You've answered your own question. You didn't feel comfortable. How can It's A Grind or any other establishment expect to stay in business if customers are put off by their surroundings?
donna
Thank you for a very thoughtful story.
Mrs. Kravitz
Who in the world should be allowed to order this woman out of It's A Grind. She bought and paid for her coffee. She should be allowed to sit for as long as everybody else sitting in the restaurant. Perhaps she needed a restroom which is for patrons only. Perhaps she needed to just sit inside the warm BUT SHE PAID FOR HER COFFEE SHE SHOULD BE ALLOWED.
Woodies
Don't we all feel a degree of sadness with this type situation! Lovely writing about the uncomfortable episode. . . . & what else could you do, but buy her coffee -- then even more people would feel awkward!
Mike in LB
Not a big fan of Mr. Moore...but I must say this is the best piece I've seen from him. I think many of us can relate to what happened. who hasn't been asked for monry in front of a store, only to say no...but never comfortably. The fact the women got up without saying anything and left, after paying for coffee says volumes. I have a new respect for you Mr. Moore.
sailmakered
Mrs. K has it right. If you're going to refuse service better do it before taking her money. Did they refund her money? It is obscene how people live on the top and bottom of our society. The people who do nothing constructive with their wealth except make more wealth should be ashamed of themselves and die a long lingering death.
Daddy Starbucks
I would expect that type of treatment from Starbucks' employees but IAG. What is the world coming to?
Greggory
sailmakered: No, they did not refund her money. Mike: Never fear -- I'm sure I'll soon write something to lose that newfound respect! But seriously, thanks.
Eagle Eye
Wow...

I have to give you credit for that article. You told it like it was, with great humility, and also great honesty.

This is a very good issue to focus on, and I do not blame you at all for saying "I don't have the answer", because I feel exactly the same way. It is a complicated issue... there are many people who are homeless because they chose to do drugs, or made other bad/selfish choices. They beg and hustle and annoy people.

But then there are other homeless, who maybe started out this way, and have just become worn down, or maybe were never this way at all. I am not rich, so I can't wipe away all their trouble. And to be honest, sometimes money is tight, and if you have some debts, it's hard to start throwing money at random other people, especially when sometimes the thought occurs that maybe you are making it more convenient for the homeless to beg and live that existence.

I have been told that many of the homeless have mental issues, and that is a big part of the problem. Not only do they need shelter, food and clothing, but they need mental help. This is a very costly and difficult task.

I think about this topic a lot, but as you said, I do not have the answer, yet.

Eagle Eye
I WILL say that it's pretty harsh and cold to force a homeless person out - to make that complaint...

Just for argument's sake, am I able to ask for the next guy or gal to leave, simply because I do not like them? Maybe I can claim that they smell, or just simply that they are bothering me. Who gets to determine such things???

Eagle Eye @ Mike in LB
Mike, your thoughts echo mine.
LB
I agree with Mrs. Kravitz, she paid for her coffee just like everyone else and she should have been allowed to stay just like everyone else. There's no blame to place here and really no answer. It's a Grind has a business to run and the employees did as they were instructed. It is just sad.
BKNan
Well, first off, Mr. Moore, It's A Grind WAS an indie, but then, oops, they were successful and built a chain. Not a charity. A business. And even here in Long Beach, so close and yet so far from Orange County, a coffee house stays in business on the goodwill of it's core clientele who pay their rent by buying pastries, gucci coffee drinks, etc. One cup of coffee purchased by a phlegmy homeless woman who puts off other customers is a threat to their ongoing business. Wake up and smell the latte - it's not about entitlement. After you host Ms. Homeless for dinner at your place, then write us a story about that.
vernon3
Having read the story, I wonder if there is not more of a history with this consumer than what is known by the staff that prompted the request for leaving the premises; sometimes we who only sit a minute in our observational mode are aware of. I personally do not like having my coffee coughed on; or have to smell the body odor, intense perfumes or after shave of any person, poor or not. It would be better if we all took the time to hand the coughing person a tissue or napkin; maybe engage them in chat. Maybe we can then have a bit more of a slice of reality to make a more complete observation....
Johnny Utah
Good for them kicking her out. She might have pertussis aka whooping cough. That's nothing to mess with. Homeless people should rob banks and go to jail. They are better off with a free room and board there.
Me Oh My
This is a tough call for a retail business. How to be fair with all customers and keep them coming back. To see it from the business' view, borrow every penny you can get you hands on, liquidate your kids' college funds, mortgage your house and open a retail business. Now while you're barely hanging on, make sure all the homeless use your business as their sanctuary. I'm sure all the good customers will be happy to frequent your business with all the homeless hanging out by your front door. Don't want to sound heartless, but I don't want to be forced to join the homeless ranks.
LB_Res_Rescued
I truly enjoyed reading the gentleman's story. However, it is my opinion that the only mistake that 'It's A Grind,' made was in asking the woman to leave the establishment because she was a paying customer. At the very least the employee should have asked her if she (the woman) would not mind moving moving further away from the other customers due to her cough. This way the woman is well aware that it is for a reason (her cough) that she is asked to move and that it is to protect the other customers (no need to go on-and-on about how germs may travel through her coughing, etc. â€' just short, sweet and respectful).

Anyway, it appears from the story the person is unaware that the 'Long Beach Rescue Mission' is right down the street from 'It's A Grind.' The Rescue Mission is located at 1430 Pacific Avenue at the corner of Pacific Avenue & Anaheim Avenue. They provide a wealth of services such as sleeping quarters, food, bathing, clothes, and spiritual guidance. They are not religious and do not impose any religious philosophies among any of the needy persons that seek their services. The serve lunch daily at 12-noon, and they serve dinner daily at 6:00 p.m. Breakfast is reserved for those staying there or for overnight guests, only.

I have personally met with management from the Rescue Mission because I live in Long Beach and many a time the homeless approach me for money to buy food. I wanted to know where I could refer them because it became almost as if I was supporting them by giving them money on a daily basis. Oh, there are those, too, that are honest enough that when I have asked them what they wanted money for they responded, 'To be honest, I want to buy a beer. I'm just being honest!' I do give them a buck, and as for the others, I refer them to the Rescue Mission by handing them one of the Long Beach Rescue Mission's business card that management gave me (they gave me a handful).

To end it here, It's A Grind should have asked the woman to move further away from customers, and it does sound as if the writer is unaware of the services that the Rescue Mission provides, or that he is even aware that the Rescue Mission exists. Now he can truly be of service the next time he questions/concerns himself about whether a person has gone hungry or needing shelter. However, unfortunate as it may be, more than have the homeless (or just those needing a handout however short it may be), over 50% bluntly told me that they will not go to the Rescue Mission because they do not want anyone telling them what to do and they thanked me anyway.

Again, great story and by reading the other comments, we are now empowered with resources. God Bless America!

PS. So will educate "It's A Grind" on how to not ask paying patrons to leave, but for them to simply excercise discretion on to keep its customers.
LB Mike
Thought provoking article, about us, not about the problem of homeless in LB. Greggory is asking how you handle situations that effect you someway, everyday. He decided to be an observer and ignore a problem. The complainer took action and spoke up. Score: Complainer 1, Observer 0. Lesson: We all need to less complaisant and more honest with ourselves and others.
CJ
Thank you for thoughtfully and honestly addressing this important issue. I see both sides of the discussion so vividly, but mostly I think we should not be singling out paying customers to kick out of retail establishments based on their living arrangements (no chance she would have been asked to leave because of her 'cough' if she had appeared more upscale)...I have been far more offended, frightened and generally annoyed by people who have perfectly good homes to go back to than by the homeless folks I've seen coming in for a cuppa joe and a bit of respite from their dreary lives.
Eagle Eye
To the person who just posted about this rescue mission - YOU ARE AWESOME

I recommend doing the next story on this place, and perhaps we all can begin to become more educated on this issue, and what we can, and should or should't do.

Scott C
To all of you homeless rights humanitarians, be honest. If It's a Grind had a 50 percent homeless clientele, would you still be a patron?
lv
well written. best i've read on lbpost. (there is a floating "I" in the beginning that needs to be deleted, but great content and sentiment). i like that you've left it to the readers to examine their own consciences about this matter.
John B. Greet
Any business should have the right to refuse service to anyone, so long as they are doing so in a manner that is not unlawful (not at odds with anti-discrimination statutes.) But when the shop chose to accept this person's money and to provide a product and/or service for it, the business essentially engaged in a fudiciary contract with the person to provide their service in a manner *no different* from that of any other paying customer in the place. If they allowed anyone else who wanted to, to sit down and enjoy their coffee, it was wrong for the business to change that policy for this person. If the business found the person to be offensive, they should have asserted their right to refuse service *before* accepting the person's money and not after. That said, since they chose to ask the person to leave, and the person voluntarily chose to do so, the matter had pretty much resolved itself. The business did provide a *product* in exchange for the person's money, if not the same level of *service* as it customarily would. But if the person refused to leave, I really do not think the business would have had any recourse at that point but to allow her to remain for a reasonable period of time, just as they allow all *other* paying customers to remain. Acceding to the wishes of any single customer should never trump doing the right thing. The right thing in this case would have been to allow the person to remain or to have refused service to her from the beginning. If only we all did the right thing more often. If only we all were more tolerant of the ill or inform among us. If only someone had offered the poor woman a handkerchief, a napkin, or some kleenex. If only the employees had personally and politely invited her to sit in chairs outside, rather than calling the guide to escort her away from the shop altogether. If only people with flegmy coughs would be more considerate of others and remain a respectful and more healthy distance away from others while they are thus inflicted. If only our society was even half as civil as it once used to be. Then perhaps friend Greggory would not have had this particular interesting and provocative story to write about.
Whats wrong with me
I'm agreeing with John Greet? How the heck did that happen? I'm hoping the business refunded her money -- essentially giving her the coffee (which could then be a scam of its own, I suppose). That might put a little more heart back in the equation.
Richie
Girls Girls come on now....1st it was only an assumtion that she was homeless. 2nd living in LB for 50years. I see many people that you would think are homeless that are not. She had money. She paid. Bottom Line. evertime you opoint your finger there are three pointed back at you.....
Eagle Eye
That's what I'M sayin Richie! I mean, isn't this a slippery slope, to where we're all gonna have to dress and look a certain way, in order to not have others whisper and narc to security gaurds to have us removed?

Don't get me wrong, I'm a conservative-minded person, and I totally get what others have talked about, in regards to Grind being a business, and you have to run it to make a profit. I'm in total agreement with that. I'm just glad that there are people like Mr. Moore, who are actually thinking about others, because this society has become pretty self-consumed and cold.

I mean really, a poor lady can't come in out of the rain and the cold to get a hot drink??? Where are your hearts people?!?!

And again Mr. Moore, I take my hat off to you for tackling this, and once again to encourage you to do a follow-up, about the mission that was mentioned.

That\'s not right
It's a grind didn't refuse service, it stole enjoyment of their service from a paying customer. When you take the money, you give up the right to refuse to provide that which has been paid for.

What you witnessed, Mr Moore, was a robbery.
John B. Greet
@That's: Not really a robbery. Just a poor customer service decision. Robbery has specific elements in criminal law and "theft of service enjoyment" is not among them, I'm afraid. Were that the case I would be making citizen's arrests for robbery everytime some clueless parent allows his or her kid to run about, screaming, in restaurants or gocery stores. If only such a response to *that* sort of circumstance were allowable! : )
DJS
We Americans are spoiled and self-centered.This sentence from the article sums it up... : you don't have to hold homeless persons blameworthy or somehow beneath you to be offended by the very notion itself: That a country with such obscene wealth allows so many of our brothers and sisters to fall between the cracks.

How sad! I would have spoken up for her though; that's discrimination!
JNJ
First off, more and more I am enjoying Mr. Moore's articles. I wasn't much of a fan until the story about the little artist. It would be difficult not to have a visceral reaction to the situation above if not only because each of us have undoubtedly had similar interactions. I also am finding myself in an unusual position agreeing with Mr. Greet, and not just in partial agreement but en total. Thank you Mr. Moore for the beautifully written article.

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