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Bicycle Thief, or Just Someone With a Replenishing Superfluity of Bikes for Sale?

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10:18am | So I'm making preparations for Burning Man, right, and I don't have a bike. I've been meaning to get one anyway, so I'm on the hunt.

I want something cheap — decent quality, but cheap — because a) I have yet to figure out how to make bank with this writing thing, and b) there are SO many bike thefts around town that should I become the next victim, I don't want to feel overly stressed over the loss and replacement.

Before starting my craigslist to search, it occurred to me that I would have no way of knowing whether this or that listed bicycle is stolen. I figure some of them must be. A bloke steals a bike, he's gotta sell the damn thing somehow, right?

Well, call me Eddie Ethico, but I don't want anything to do with stolen property — I don't care how good the deal is; and ignorance of such a thing is not what I call bliss.

While perusing the ads, I came across one with a couple of mountain bikes for sale. $70, ready to ride. "Have other bikes also," the ad said.

Monday I go see the guy, who lifts the door of his near-empty apartment garage to reveal five bicycles. The two in back, he says, are his personal bikes, the ones he rides. The other three are for sale, $70 apiece. He's ridden them all at one time or another, he tells me. "So now you're finally getting around to getting rid of them?" I ask, relatively full of credulity but finding it a little odd that he had held on to not one, not two, but three similar bikes he no longer rode at all.

I test-ride all three, find one in particular I like: a 21-speed Schwinn with smooth gears and a comfy, fat seat. The rear wheel's a little wonky, but he assures me it's just a matter of doing something or other with the spokes (I know next to nothing about bikes). As he watches me ponder, he drops the price to $60. I'm sold, but I don't have the cash on me. (I'd intended to sleep on it, since I couldn't pick up the bike until Wednesday, and I'd been wavering on whether I might rather have a beach cruiser.) Will he take a check? He won't, and sends me off to a nearby liquor store with an ATM.

Is it really my reluctance to pay the $2.50 transaction fee that gives me pause? I don't know, but I return with a fib that the machine wasn't working and promise to come back Wednesday with the cash — which I almost fully intend to do when I say it.

During the interim I call a bike shop to see how much it would be to get a tune-up, replace a wheel. I discuss with my Burnermate a couple of bikes in disrepair a mutual friend says we can have. And then on Wednesday, just for the sake of last-minute comparison, of considering all of my options, I take another gander at craigslist.

An ad for a 20-inch Trek trail bike has just been posted. Is that too small for my 5'8" frame? The 26-inch Schwinn I'd test-ridden seemed fine, but the guy was significantly taller than I am, so maybe a smaller frame might work for me, too? I click on the link.

Before I read a word of text I recognize one of the bikes in the four pictures there. When my glance goes upscreen to the phone number, I'm sure I know it. But of course I double-check: yes, that's the one.

The bike featured in the ad's headline is, beyond question, not one of the three bikes offered for sale on Monday. And because of its unique color, I am just this side of certain it is not one of the two bikes the seller said were his current riding bikes. No, this bike is new to the scene. Six speeds. $60. "Have other bikes also."

Maybe there's an explanation here that doesn't involve illegal activity. But if someone were involved with bicycle theft, isn't this exactly how the back end of whole business might go down?

I didn't buy the bike (any of them). I didn't even let the guy know I had changed my mind. To him I say: Dude, if you're out there and you're an upstanding citizen who really did just happen to hold onto three bikes you weren't riding even though you had two others and then within 48 hours somehow came up with another, smaller-sized bike that you felt like putting up for sale, my sincere apologies for flaking on you, and for suspecting the worst.

But can you blame me?

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Dennis
My question is if you suspect the guy is selling stolen bicycles, possibly engaged in stealing them as well, will you provide the information to the police? Or will you in essence support his potential illegal activity that creates more victims with your silence?
LB Lover
Bicycle theft is an endemic and rampantly growing problem in this town (as well as other bigger cities - LA, Seattle, NY, etc). There's been a definite backlash in most cities, with people taking justice against bike thieves into their own hands, but we need that kind of action in LB. You can barely run into the liquor store for a soda without coming back out to find your lock cut and your bike nowhere to be found. Cyclists in this community need to ORGANIZE like those in NY, LA etc, and make the very practice of being a bike thief not only difficult, but dangerous. We need to look out for our fellow cyclists and their bikes. We need dedicated bike parking with good visibility and good lighting in more places around the city. And we need a police dept who treats cyclists like citizens and not criminals.
John B. Greet
@ Dennis: If recent columns are any indication, it seems that Greggory would much prefer to discuss his suspicions and concerns here, in a public forum, where nothing either effective or constructive can come of it, rather than taking some sort of affirmative step to report activity he believes may be criminal or even suspicious in nature.

I mean, hey, if he did that some police officer might actually find the guy, briefly detain and identify him, and determine whether Greggory's reasonable suspicions really had any merit.

Heck, some unfortunate cyclists might even get their bikes back.

We can't have that, right?
FF
When exactly did it become a reporter's job to be a narc for the cops? Do you think Cronkite, Rather, or any of the other greats made a career out of phoning complaints into the PD all day? No, they made a career out of putting information out into the "public forum".

Mr. Moore's job is not to run and file a report with the police for every injustice he witnesses. His job is to report what he sees.
John B. Greet
FF: When exactly did it become your job to run interference for Greggory? I can only hope he is paying you well!



Reporting reasonable suspicions of criminal activity has more to do with civic and personal responsibility than it does with whether one is compensated for doing so. Sort of like filing official complaints when one suspects that a a police officer has committed misconduct.



But perhaps those are concepts somewhat alien to you.



"Cronkite, Rather" and "other greats"? Really? Greggory is an excellent writer, granted, but he is an opinionist, not a hard journalist. And I would like to hope that if either of them had ever suspected that crimes were being committed in their communities, that they would have the sense of personal and civic responsibility to report their concerns to their local PD's.



But perhaps that's just me.
terri
Greggory - I live in the Ebell lofts and a friend lives in the Kress Lofts. Both have been broken into a couple times with bikes stolen in the last few months. I have video stills of the culprits in the Kress, brazenly wheeling out bikes in the middle of the night. Please provide me with an email address to send the photos to see if by chance these are the guys that had the bikes for sale. Thanks!
Hard Times
Just a few thoughts. One, bicycles have serial numbers on them, you could check to see if it is registered with the National Registry of the local law enforcement which should tell you if it has been stolen or not. (every bike owner is suppose to do this by law when they get a bike) two, why should a bike be any different than anything else you by on Craiglist, "Buyer Beware!"
Three, hard times for alot of people out there these days. Hard to jump to conclusions without any evidence. He very well could be really good at fixing up bicycles and is trying to make an honest living at doing it. (Most bicycle shops do this with used bikes, he probably can't afford the overhead of a store front.) A harder question to ask is where has trust gone in our community, the only way to build trust is to have it. (I am not preaching, I as well would be concerned and may not buy the bike) A friend just had theirs stolen and it ended up in a used bike shop just around the corner from where it was stolen.
gavin
seriously? "When exactly did it become a reporter's job to be a narc for the cops"
tell me you wrote that sarcastically. please.
this guy is almost certainly a bike theif that you have unconvered yet you are not going to tell the cops and save several if not dozens of people the pain and violation of being robbed etc etc because you would rather write about it and for some bizarre reason known to no one you cant do both?
i almost typed that i hope mr moore has his house robbed and i witness it but instead of calling the cops, i write a blog post about it, maybe even submit it to the post or the PT, but i wouldnt mean that, you see, normal caring members of society dont wish awful things upon others, and they dont step out of the way and let bad things happen that they could easily stop.
wow, reading this makes me lose a little bit more of my faith in humanity.
larryfinley
I had a bike stolen. It had a 99c store lock and was left in an alley. I'm more careful now. Big chain, big lock, cheap bike. I park in heavily trafficked areas. My bike goes to burningman. bikes are more or less misplaced or accidentely taken. I once hopped on a bike, thinking it was mine, then wondered why it wasn't. I put it back and found mine. I just would like to know whay is the best bike lock out there. If there was a good lock, then the bike wouldn't get stolen.
Paul
terri said," I have video stills of the culprits in the Kress." Yes, and the cops have the very clear video of the Cherry and 4th Street liquor store shooting. The justice system works slowly, but I hope the cops reading this know that we in the neighborhood are still waiting for them to catch those guys. About the article, it was interesting in that the writing style was not like many others. Tweekers seem to be into bike thefts. I have seen them up all night working on many bikes in tiny apartment garages here in LB. Also, the cars in our neigborhood were hit not long ago. They had a way of using electronics to get in and disabele the alarms.
Paul
terri said," I have video stills of the culprits in the Kress." Yes, and the cops have the very clear video of the Cherry and 4th Street liquor store shooting. The justice system works slowly, but I hope the cops reading this know that we in the neighborhood are still waiting for them to catch those guys. About the article, it was interesting in that the writing style was not like many others. Tweekers seem to be into bike thefts. I have seen them up all night working on many bikes in tiny apartment garages here in LB. Also, the cars in our neighborhood were hit not long ago. They had a way of using electronics to get in and disable the alarms.
Avid Cyclist
Two things. First, I ride a bike that cost me $2500 in 2003, and I do not own a lock for it. Why? Because bike theft is so pervasive I NEVER leave my bike unattended. This, of course, reduces the utility aspect of riding, as I cannot use my bike to run errands unless accompanied by another rider who waits outside with both bikes. It is sad but true. Second, really glad to hear of your suspicions Mr. Moore, when my Yakima roof bike rack was stolen off my car last January, I perused craigslist myself in the hopes of spotting it for sale. However, if you really
wanted to be more, well, "proactive," you might have considered securing the serial number(s) of the bike(s) you were interested in, and while obtaining the serial number(s), you might also have gauged the seller's reaction or disposition (defensive?). Armed with this information, you might have contacted local police departments and brought it to their attention. Probably less effort than writing this article...
terri
Unfortunately Paul, the police were not interested in taking a report In either building or the video stills...
I sent Greggory the stills but haven't heard back yet. Perhaps the police would be interested if they had an address for the culprits.
Lb Cyclist
There's an old saying that says if something sounds too good to be true it probably isn't. Five mountain bikes at $70 apiece, oops make that %60 apiece is the first red flag.
Seller won't take a check, cash only now, after lowering his price. Red flag number two.
What guy in today's economy has five bikes, and only rides rwo of them? Another red flag, strike three.
Mr. Moore, a wise number to write down and keep in your wallet: 562-435-6711. Next time you see something this, please call this number and tell who answers it what you have told us readers. Then sit down and write your next column. Maybe you could try that number now and tell who answers where this great low cost bicycle supermarket is being operated at?
John B. Greet
@ Lb Cyclist: I have serious doubts as to Greggory's interest in calling LBPD about much of anything. He seems far more concerned about apologizing to a likely bike thief than he is about seeing the person caught and prosecuted, and people's rightful property returned to them.

Greggory goes so far as to ask his FB pals what THEY might do if they were he. Most people I know who are Greggory's age or older are not quite so equivocal or uncertain in the face of the various clues he has personally observed in this case.

So what happens if Greggory calls?

The cops could learn that the guy was coming by his bicycles lawfully. Sweet! Greggory can tell all his friends and family about a great legal source for inexpensive bikes and the guy makes more sales!

Win-win.

On the other hand, maybe a suspected criminal gets arrested. While the guy is in custody there is one less person stealing and/or selling stolen bikes in Long Beach, and some crime victims (some of them likely to be young people) might get their rightful property back.

Yes, I can see why this would be such a difficult dilemma for Greggory.
John B. Greet
So Greggory, what was the consensus on your various surveys? Did most of those you asked agree that you should report this suspicious activity to the police? If so, did they influence you to do so? If so, have there been any results one way or the other? Inquiring minds want to know!
Pam
Why would anyone in their right mind go to Burning Man? Why would anyone go to the desert in summer just to be around wanna-be hippies? I was a hippie. It's over. And when I was a hippie, I wasn't stupid or stoned enough to go the desert in the summer for days! I don't get it! I'd rather go to Funk Fest in downtown LB where the weather is gorgeous and you go home and sleep in your bed! Guess I'm getting old!
bh
FWIW: if you've already had your bike stolen, please consider registering it over http://stolenbicycleregistry.com -- it is free, and this puts your bike's info into a public database of stolen bikes. It's a long shot, but it works.

And if you're buying a bike, you can run its serial number at stolenbicycleregistry.com/searchserial.php to see if it has been reported stolen.

Craigslist is a huge enabler of petty thieves, and they've done little to stem the tide. It's too easy for someone to steal 5, 6 bikes a day and sell them on CL with impunity. CL doesn't keep enough info on them to do anything, and the cops hardly care, even when you've found *your bike* for sale on CL.

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