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UPDATED WITH NEW PHOTO: NYC Cyclist Calls Protected Bike Lanes 'Death Traps;' Reaction to Long Beach Bike-only Lanes Mixed

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Bicyclists in downtown Long Beach take their first official spin in the city's new protected bike paths on April 23, the day they were officially opened to the public. Photo by Richard Risemberg.

UPDATE Monday, April 25, 5:55pm |
Protected bicycle lanes similar to those that officially debuted in Long Beach over the weekend can be found in several other American cities, and while their design is aimed at boosting both the perceived and actual safety of biker riders, some East Coast cyclists say they accomplish the exact opposite.

The cycling community in New York City is reportedly divided on the issue of constructing bike paths that are sandwiched between the sidewalk and a row of parked cars in an effort to separate them from vehicle traffic. Some cyclists there say that while the lanes are well-intentioned, they effectively have the opposite effect, according to an April 23 Wall Street Journal report.

Dan Durller, a 29-year-old cyclist from Brooklyn, reportedly said that the separated bike lanes in New York City pose additional hazards for bike riders, who must dodge pedestrians and be wary of turning cars, slower cyclists and trucks loading and unloading through the cyclists' right-of-way.

"They're death traps and they're very poorly designed," Durller told the WSJ.

Still, many New Yorkers reportedly love the new lanes, and since their installation, statistics show that the number of commuters using bikes in the city of New York has risen considerably.

 
UPDATE Monday, April 25, 11:23am | Long Beach residents are expressing mixed feelings regarding the new bike-only lanes that have been installed downtown as part of a federal pilot program along Broadway and Third Street.

Reaction to the new cycle tracks, as they are often referred to, thus far appears to be close to equal parts love and hate.

Only time will tell as to the community's long-term reaction to the new bike-only paths, which are separated from vehicle traffic by a curb, parking lane and, in some areas, the installation of a median island.

The 12-month-long demonstration project made possible through the Federal Highway Administration and the California Traffic Control Devices Committee, set the city back about $700,000, according to a set of
frequently asked questions on
a fact sheet posted on BikeLongBeach.org. It should be noted that this sum includes the cost of updating the city's current traffic signal system, which was installed approximately three decades ago, according to City Hall.

No money from the city's general fund was used for the project; rather, local transportation funds that were disbursed by the state originating from the federal government covered the construction and other, related costs. The funds came with a strict earmark delineating that they be used solely for improvements to the city's transportation system. The city was not permitted to use the funds for street maintenance and repair projects, such as filling potholes or resurfacing roadways.

After 12 months, should the FHA and CTCDC determine the separated bike lanes to have been "unsuccessful" (no parameters as to what might be considered "success" as opposed to "failure" are given), they will be removed and the third vehicle traffic lane that was sacrificed on each street to create the new bike paths will be restored. 

Should the agencies determine them to have been "successful," the FHA and the CTCDC may choose to adopt the design "as a standard application that can be used by all cities," according to the fact sheet. In this case, the city would then decide whether to pursue more widespread installation of similar protected bike paths throughout Long Beach.

Friday, April 22, 11:45am | The city of Long Beach is about to join the ranks of a small handful of cities nationwide offering bicyclists what officials say is a safer way to ride amidst vehicle traffic.

The separated bike lanes, commonly referred to as "cycle tracks," recently installed along Broadway and Third Street are set to be officially opened for use beginning Saturday following a city-sponsored ceremony slated to mark the occasion.

Similar "protected" bike paths have already opened in San Francisco, Davis, Portland, Ore., and New York City.

The federally funded installation of the tracks on the one-way throughfares that provide drivers access to and from the I-710 (Long Beach) Freeway has resulted in some controversy, as the new bike lanes have replaced one of each street's three vehicle traffic lanes. 

Both Broadway and Third now feature two lanes for vehicle traffic, while the third has been transformed into a wide bike lane and parking lane separated by a painted median island and asphalt curb. Both the curb and the parking lane serve as a buffer between cyclists and cars in an effort to increase the safety of bicyclists who ride downtown.

While motorists have complained about the new lanes, which were installed under a federally-backed, yearlong pilot project, because they have slowed traffic by decreasing the number of lanes on the two test streets, traffic engineers and cycle proponents are cheering the decreased speeds at which cars are now forced to travel.
 
The two-mile-long sections of buffered bike lanes heading east on Broadway and west on Third run from Alamitos to Golden avenues. 

According to a recent study from the Harvard School of Public Health, cyclists who use cycle track lanes as opposed to riding their bikes in or along vehicle traffic lanes are less likely to be injured.

Published on Feb. 9 of this year, the study found that bicycle riders suffer fewer injuries when they ride on physically separated, bicycle-exclusive paths along roadways than they do when riding in the road. The study compared injury rates of cyclists on cycle tracks in Montreal, Canada, with injury rates of cyclists who ride on streets in that city.

Cyclists using bicycle-exclusive lanes are 28 percent less likely to suffer an injury, the study found.

Cycle tracks are popular and widely used in Montreal as well as in The Netherlands, where 27 percent of the population uses bikes as a primary mode of transportation. There, cyclists are at least 26 times less likely to suffer injuries than their counterparts in the United States, where cycle track construction has been "hampered," according to the study. This, researchers say, correlates to the fact that a mere .5 percent of American commuters use bikes as their primary mode of transportation.

People are more likely to use bicycles as a primary mode of transportation when cycle tracks are available because they offer cyclists both a perceived and real sense of safety, researchers said. The study found that the chief obstacle to bicycling, especially for women, children and seniors, is the perceived danger of vehicular traffic, which the study suggests is a real threat based on corroboration by bike riders surveyed by the study's research team.

Local critics, however, say that the study doesn't apply to the new bike lanes in Long Beach, which they believe were poorly designed and therefore dangerous.

Long Beach resident Kirk Jordan is concerned about the lack of safety offered by the cycle tracks. He told the Long Beach Post that he continually sees cars driving in portions of the protected bike lanes (see photos at end of post), which are supposed to be closed to vehicle traffic.

"I just drove past the Post Office again today,and once more saw cars driving down the bike path after depositing mail in the drive-through mailbox," Jordan said in an e-mail on Thursday. "The reason? They have to drive in the path because the new curb as constructed blocks cars from pulling back out onto Third Street."

This is among a host of other issues he perceives as design flaws. Others include areas along the cycle tracks that lack a curb separating cyclists from cars. He also cites areas in which the bike lanes "cross dangerously" with vehicle lanes, which happen to be located at some of the city's busiest intersections.

At the intersection of Long Beach Boulevard and Third, for example, cyclists must cut to the right to continue heading west on Third at the same point at which drivers on Third who are turning left to head south on Long Beach Boulevard must cut to the left.

While Jordan said he is "all for" protected bike paths, he believes the paths installed downtown fall far short of boosting safety for cyclists.

It appears that the questionable design features aren't unique to the separated bike lanes in Long Beach. Cycle tracks in other U.S. cities are constructed similarly, and cyclists and motorists in at least one of those communities have complained about issues that are nearly identical to those raised by Jordan.

In the city of Portland, similar issues have cropped up with its experimental cycle track, which was installed in 2008. When it first opened, motorists often parked, stopped or drove in the protected lane, and while the frequency of that problem has lessened, it still exists, according to cyclists discussing the cycle track at BikePortland.org

Additional problems associated with the cycle track cited by Portland cyclists include their visibility to motorists being lessened; inattentive pedestrians crossing or standing in the middle of the track; and insufficient space to safely pass other cyclists or other obstructions without entering a door zone or parking area.

Whether similar issues will be identified by Long Beach cyclists remains to be seen.
 
The city of Long Beach will hold a grand-opening-style ceremony Saturday on The Promenade between Broadway and Third, where Mayor Bob Foster and several other elected and city officials will hop on bikes and take the "first ride" at the conclusion of a ribbon-cutting ceremony. 

Octavio Orduño, a 103-year-old Long Beach man who has been dubbed "The World's Oldest Cyclist," is expected to join them.


The event begins at 11 a.m., and festivities will also include a bike safety rodeo for kids, bike decorating, bike tune-ups and a screening of Michael Baugh's film, "Riding Bikes with the Dutch."


Motorists apparently confused or indifferent about the city's new bike-only lanes, including this one on Third Street that separates drivers from the drive-thru mailboxes on the curb, drive into the bike path to access the mailboxes. Photo courtesy of Kirk Jordan.


This shot, taken just a few seconds after the photo directly above, illustrates two vehicles illegally driving in the new bike-only lane on Third Street, posing a safety hazard to the bicyclist using the new cycle lane. Photo courtesy of Kirk Jordan.

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Archived Comments (115)
Phil
Great! So, now we're ELIMINATING traffic lanes from an already crowded system. Do we want to create more grid lock for a few cyclists? Our priorities are confusing.
Joseph E
The new bike lane is wide enough for bike to pass each other, so it has the capacity of two car lanes. So this has actually increased the capacity of Broadway and Third to move people thru downtown.

More importantly, these streets are now much safer and nicer places to walk, with speeding reduced. Before many people would drive 40 mph (I was always passed while going the 30 mph speed limit), now most traffic is at 25 mph or less. If you have been downtown, you will see how much more pleasant it is to walk along Broadway now.

I've seen a dozen bike riders every time I've used these lanes on my commute (at rush hour), even before they were officially opened or the bike signals were turned on, so I think they will become very popular once word gets out that there is now a safe way to ride a bike downtown.

This will help businesses and residents Downtown. People driving to the freeway can take Shoreline or 7th instead, if they want to go fast.
UCLA Student
Actually, eliminating one lane lessens traffic congestion. Also, taking out that one lane will help mitigate traffic speed and will concentrate traffic on streets that might benefit more from added usage (e.g. 4th Street, Ocean, 1st)
Marianne
Everyone should get on their bike and ride it and see how cool it is to be out on a bike in the sunshine in large numbers.

I would if my bike hadn't been ripped off last fall...
Phil #2
I'm not sure which is more ridiculous, those bike lanes or the roundabouts they put in Belmont Heights intersections. Last time I looked the vast majority of people are still using cars to get around. How about repaving Broadway, Redondo, 4th, 7th, 10th, and any other main routes to get across town? That would save motorists thousands of dollars in repair bills. Maybe it makes too much sense to do something that would benefit the majority of citizens, instead of wasting money & creating gridlock in order to benefit a neglible number of people in comparison. I'm sure that all of the people who work outside of Long Beach and have to drive to work really appreciate it as they try to come down Broadway to get home after a long, hard day at work.
LBResident1
UCLA Student, how does pushing traffic and associated impacts into neighborhoods benefit anyone? The only good use for the bike lanes is to ride Garcia, Lowenthal and West out of town for good.
Dave
Will the cycle track light signals be working when they open on Saturday?
Johnny Utah
Phil squared...I totally agree
What this city needs is to FOCUS on its problems and not create them.
Logic?
I'm sure the mailboxes were already there when the bike lane went in so maybe that's the first mistake, but really, what are the people in the cars who want to put something in the mailbox supposed to do, find a place to park and walk their mail over. The caption makes it sound like the drivers are going out of their way to break the law or run over a biker, really they just wanted to mail a letter. Get a clue, move the mailboxes.
And LB Resident1, TOTALLY with you on that suggestion and the sooner the better.
rickster
What about the 300 parking spots that were lost and the meter money from these spots? Is taking 20 minutes to find a place to park really green? These lanes are dangerous and very costly.
PelicanCat
I think the bike tracks are great! They should move the mail boxes to a street that goes East and West. It doesn't make sense for them to be on that street, the way they are facing any longer. They should have thought of this before putting in the bike tracks.
Frustrated
Glad to know that the deficit increased so 12 people riding bikes during rush hour can "feel safe". I feel sorry for the businesses people will no longer use because it is such a pain to get to them now. Phil squared - I'm with you.
Ryan M
This is goddamn ridiculous that they are wasting money on this, when I have to MEMORIZE where the potholes are to avoid them in my daily commute around this city, because the city doesn't do anything about the potholes and cracks in every major street in the downtown area.
JR
The idea of these is great, but taking 3rd St AND Broadway down to 2 lanes has been very problematic... They are often effectively reduced to only 1 lane each time a car stops to parallel park, or a car stops before turning right (to wait for pedestrians), or a truck stops to make deliveries for one of the many businesses... these things happen often and there is virtually no way for traffic to continue moving in these circumstances. I used to loudly praise the smooth traffic through downtown Long Beach and I sincerely appreciated the excellent signal coordination that kept it all moving. But that coordination doesn't matter with these lane reductions. I now frequently have to wait through multiple turns of a light before making it through a single intersection... I've begun avoiding downtown because of this gridlock, and imagine others are doing the same. Discouraging visitors due to traffic congestion can't be a good thing. I'm not sure the improved bike traffic out weighs the cost.
JR
p.s. - @UCLA Student, I'm pretty skeptical that other streets "might benefit more from added usage". While both 1st and 4th have some great businesses that I'm sure would love the traffic... neither 4th nor 1st are complete East-West through streets. 1st is interrupted by the transit mall and City Hall, and 4th doesn't connect to 710 and is effectively also interrupted by City Place. As we've effectively lost 2 of 3 through streets for downtown, my fear is that more people will simply stay away. Then no one benefits.
Phil #2
UCLA Student, your logic indicates that you may have a future in city government. If I'm following your reasoning, what you're saying is that taking a lane away makes it so bad for drivers that they will start using other streets, which is good for the other streets because they are not crowded enough. You may be hanging around the Westsiders too much!
LBResident1
This is a feel good project for Garcia and Lowenthal that generates them some press. That is all they care about. They could careless about the impacts the bike lanes is having on traffic, safety or our neighborhoods. The Garcia/Lowenthal Bike Lanes to No Where will be opened today. Big Deal
chris
I saw a license plate frame the other day which read. "California...The Stupid State". I have to agree. This moronic bike lane project is typical of the wasted revenues in most California cities. We're broke and yet money is continually spent on low priority pet projects. How about fixing the potholes around town first?
Rory
These bike lanes have made driving through downtown a nightmare. Drivers are constantly trying to park along the route, slowing or stopping traffic even further. If you want to bike downtown, there are much easier ways to do it than riding on 3rd and Broadway. Try riding your bikes through the neighborhoods on 1st or 2nd or even along the beach. It's much more relaxing and actually gets you somewhere.
Simpleton
When are we going to get an honest accounting of how many (how few) of our citizens use these cycling investments? These last two, the downtown lanes and Vista Street, go from nowhere to nowhere and have no chance of getting more than a few recreational cyclists to use them daily.

The downtown lanes will inconvenience thousands of citizens with longer commutes and diversions. When will this be counted?
Jim Lewis
The entry to the mailboxes is GREEN, and the mailboxes are still there -- thus telling me it's open for cars. Nothing wrong with that scenrio, as both drivers and riders can see each other and coexist. This waste of tax dollars is outragious when we have sidewalks to fix, potholes to fill, and streets to repave. Bikers need training and enforcement in traffic laws. I was flipped off by a biker rooling out from a stop sign into my right-of-way yesterday -- outside of the bike lane! They aren't even using what's already there . . . sigh.
RW Crum
I had my first opportunity to experience the bike lanes on Second Street this week. Absolute freaking insanity. I'd use another F word, but LB Post holds back some of my stuff as it is. With these bike lanes, it's almost as if the city has some perverse desire to actually make it worse for bike riders and drivers alike by installing something that is GUARANTEED to eventually cause someone's death or at least a severe injury. It's as if they WANT someone to die, seriously, not enjoy a bike ride. I am absolutely serious- if I happen to hit someone in one of these lanes, you be be damn well sure I'm suing the city for making it happen. Was this idea vetted by Legal at all?????????????? Whoever had anything to do with this is a moron.
RW Crum
And the photos at the end of the article? Besides illustrating the sheer idiocy of the design flaws inherent in this disaster (who wants to be the first person ticketed FOR MAILING A LETTER???), I notice Acres Of Books in the background. Oh yeah, the Redevelopment Agency is SUCH a good thing for this city. What's it been, two years now or something since Acres was forced out??? And there it sits, with nothing done on the spot. Blast the freaking RDA out of here, Jerry Brown, pleeease.
paintboy
We had our chance to get all our streets fixed with Measure I a couple years ago. It got voted down because nobody wanted to raise taxes. Until people are willing to put their money where their mouth is, things are going to move a lot slower. This project is being federally funded, did you not read the article? Yes, we still pay money to the feds too, but hey at least they are spending that money in our city and not somewhere else!! Why does everyone always have to be so negative when it comes to changes?! The things haven't even opened yet, give it chance to work the kinks out. Geesh. I don't own a bike, but I think its a nice thing for all those people that do. Quit being so selfish, it's tired.
Johnny Utah
It's nice to know that most people agree that this bike line is a POS for this town.

I wish the feds would have actually thought about doing something worthy instead of clowning around with cash to spend.
Phil #2
Hey Paintboy, this may come as a shock to you, but the federal money comes from the same taxpayers complaining right now...just because you have the opportunity to waste some money doesn't mean you should...no matter what level of government is wasting our money is still our money being wasted! More taxes? You just don't get it, do you? We're sick of paying more taxes. We're already some of the highest taxed people in the country. We don't have an income problem...we have a spending problem...due to stupid spending like bike lanes! Keeping the roads functional is a basic responsibility and should be funded right after police & fire...not wasteful crap like bike lanes!!!
Pigeon
I live for the day LBResident's wish regarding the idiots in government comes true! A complete waste of money when we can't even drive down Ocean in the Shore for the potholes and decayed pavement.
David
I am a cyclist, worked on the Long Beach Master Bike Plan and generally applaud efforts to improve the cycling experience. However, when I first inspected the new bike lanes, it seemed counter-intuitive that they were constructed in left or "fast lane" of those streets. Cyclists normally ride in the right or "slow lane" and drivers are accustomed to seeing them there. I also noted that the Sharrows in Belmont Shore were built in the right lane.



Now, both everyone has to adjust to cyclists being in the left lane! Motorists will be making left hand turns without looking back over their left shoulder for bikes (because they never had to before) and such turns will be creating dangerous surprises for cyclists.



Constructing the bike lanes on the right would also have eliminated the absurd conflict with the drive-through mailboxes. How did this design get through plan check?
Mike Ruehle
According to the Press Telegram, the Long Beach Fire Department now states their fire trucks can not fit under the street lights and signal lights created for the bike lanes. I hope all of the people living in those high rises that can no longer be supported in the event of a fire are all bike riders.
\"Policies\"
At the risk of being "outed" or my critical observations and questions being non-posted by the almighty powers that be here on the LBPost, I'd like to know how much of our "Federally Funded" dollars we're spent on this project? I humbly present this comment, oh wise and noble editors...
DF
First of all, about 30 parking spaces were lost, not 300. A quick google search and you'll find that info on bikelongbeach.org. Second, there are other alternatives for motorists to get through downtown quickly such as Ocean Blvd and 7th St, which also both connect to the 710. If you must drive as quickly as possible through an area, you still can. As with any new changes, there will be kinks to work out such as the mailboxes, which probably should be moved. To clarify, the green paint is to indicate that cars may exit an alley at that point, not that motorists are allowed to enter the lane to get to the mailboxes. Let's see how well the bike lanes are received once they actually OPEN before we decide that they're a complete waste of money. They have been very successful in other parts of the country such as NYC and Portland in providing people with alternatives to driving, more "choices" if you will. As gas creeps back over $4.00/gallon, a trip on a bicycle to a nearby coffeeshop or grocery store may look more appealing. When it does, these lanes will be there for those willing and capable to do so for those shorter distances, and they'll take up one less parking space when they do.
Simon F
Once, a few years ago,I read an article that Long Beach was in the top 5 of cities in the country where traffic moved smoothly, getting across town in good time. I live downtown and loved the idea, but once a bus stops, both lanes are clogged. We have lots of recreation in lb, maybe a better use of that "extra" lane would've been for transit...Businesses don't come to long beach , so they can be diverted to other streets, and they don't ride their bikes to work...Garcia should be ashamed for wasting this federal money
RDA Go Away
Yes, so true about Acres of Books. Thank you RW Crum for the reminder. And as long as we're saluting the RDA, let's not forget the unseemly behavior of its leader during those years, Craig Beck, getting caught clearly accepting gifts from developers and some pretty shady emails suggesting some of the entertainmen might be X-rated. He got a slap on the wrist and moved to another dept - big deal. Acres of Books had to go, so should the RDA and Pat West. Pat shook his finger at Beck - where's Pat's accountability? As someone suggested, let's put Beck, West and his RDA, Suja on bikes and send 'em spinning off into some other city. Didn't Pat West come from Paramount? Has anyone seen Paramount lately???
Phil lover
Phil- right on... I live in Long Beach... And I would like to mention, this appears to be those job saving "stimulus" dollars that gave someone a temporary job to inflate the appearance of employment. So now we have that nice green feeling that we will all give up our cars and ride our bikes everywhere instead, since we can no longer afford gasoline or food.
Simpleton
Hey DF, just as there are alternatives to motorists for getting thru downtown, there are also alternatives for cyclists (I'll toss out the dedicated bike path on our abandoned beaches, that I ride often, as just one).

Since 99% plus of us LB citizens drive our cars to work, doesn't it strike you as a little bit piggish that you want 1/3 of traffic lanes on main east/west arterials dedicated to bikes, that make up 0.5% of drivers going to work?

And does driving an ice cream cooler around the neighborhood count as driving to work?
DF
@Simpleton, First of all, according to US Census, American Community Survey 2008 (http://transportation-modes-city.findthebest.com/), 84.6% of Long Beach citizens drive to work (73% alone and 11.6% carpool). That means that 15.4% do not. They either bike, motorcycle, taxi, take public transit or work from home. I see what is being done as taking a very small amount (2.4mi) of the thousands of miles of lanes in Long Beach and making them available to those who would use and would like to use alternative means of getting around for work or otherwise.

Also, getting off the freeway one exit before or after Broadway or driving a couple of blocks north or south to get to Ocean/7th will take you significantly less time than biking all the way to the beach path--presuming there is even an entrance close by--and then making your way downtown. It would be particularly bad the further you live from the coast. So your alternatives for bicycling are not a fair comparison.

You'd have to ask the census about the ice cream cooler driving, but I'm sure reasonable minds could differ. ;)
Cost?
So how much did it cost? Thank you, and happy reading.
pedestrian
Seems the less one knows about this project, the stronger is one's opinion. 300 parking spaces were NOT lost - about 25 were. City moneyw as not used - it's federal money that COULD ONLY be used for bike lanes. But I guess it's shoot first, think later.
Phil #2
DF, in the spirit of discussion, let's look at the numbers that you believe to be so supportive for wasting tax money and adding gridlock. You say that only 85% of people commute to work, and that leaves this big 15% that gets to work in some way other than driving. I learned from my statistics class that 85% was an overwhelming majority compared to 15%, but maybe math is different nowadays. Let me go out an a limb here and say that a small, small fraction of that 15% is bikes. Let's just say that 85% is just a little bigger, I still believe that common sense would dictate repairing all of the roads in town for the 85% before considering a bike path for the very, very small fraction of 15%...however, I could be wrong...I never took a critical thinking class.
LBCritic
paintboy: Measure I was chock-full of NON-infrustructure projects and property acquisition (like the wetlands purchase) in order to get each council person's support (read: bribery). I dare say that if it had been ONLY true infrustrucutre, it would have passed. These bike lanes would not.

Jesika
I think the Broadway and 3rd. St bike lanes are a huge, huge mistake of bad planning and a waste of city funds. I frequently ride my bike as my primary mode of transport as I do not own a car. It throttles traffic from moving smoothly to freeways for commuting and puts parked cars extremely close to oncoming traffic. Long Beach is in Sothern California where most people need easy access to freeways for work. Riding as a passenger in my friend's or boyfriends car during peak hours has shocked me at the ridiculous bad planning of the the architect if this scheme. The money should have been better spent on improving and fixing potholes the many potholes that dot the streets of Long Beach and beautifying the street landscaping.
I Live Downtown
I live Downtown and am HAPPY the new bike lanes are here! If you don't want to drive through congestion take ocean, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th street to your destination. I'm glad Long Beach is building an identity as a HEALTHY city. The bike lanes were funded by FEDERAL grants, not city money...and yes it's still technically your "tax dollars" but at least it's spent here and not in hideous Huntington Beach or something.
Simpleton
@DF, this isn't a you versus me issue. For every biker that might use these lanes, there are hundreds and hundreds of drivers. All of those thousands of drivers should suck it up and deal with a longer commute so a few dozen cyclists can have their own blvd. and save a few minutes?

And the statement that it's just 2.4 miles of thousands of miles in LB is ridiculous. Broadway is the primary eastbound arterial from the 710 to Alamitos Beach, Belmont Heights and Belmont Shore. That is like saying we just took .001% of New York state for redevelopment - midtown Manhattan.
Marilyn
The idea is offer more bike lanes so more people cycle and less people drive, especially for short trips. Whether you like it or not fuel is becoming very expensive and many believe is at peak production right now- see http://www.transitionnetwork.org/
So we need to start changing the way we travel and join other major cities around the world that have huge numbers of people cycling. Do you remember the smog days in the 70's in LB- where we couldn't go out at PE time!!
In London and Paris, they're offering inexpensive hire bikes to go from train stations to people's work and it has increased cycling by 40% in some areas. See: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/cycling/14808.aspx
Holland has done studies that show that people who cycle to work are healthier, less weight issues and have less absentism.
And watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk6YxhKH590
Eagle Eye
Is it any wonder American society is such a mess? With UCLA grads who think that taking away a lane HELPS traffic flow, and guys named "paintboy" who think we aren't taxed enough, it just boggles the mind at how out of touch with reality some folks are, yet consider themselves to be intellectual.
Jen
I am totally lovin these new bike tracks and every cyclist I meet at the stop lights loves them as well. I just think its fantastic that long beach is embracing the cycle-power movement. I understand a lot of people are far too unhealthy or overweight to effectively use these paths- but with a little hard work and a graduated exercise regime I hope to see all you critics out there by mid summer.

\'UCLA grad painting with
Anti bike lane arguments

"Nobody bikes" Of course not, we need to build a safe, convenient network first like we have tried to do for cars.



"Who paid for this/we're broke/waste of money" This project was mostly paid or with transportation funds and grants, money that could not have gone towards schools or whatever.



"we're creating more congestion, that isnt eco friendly/ now i spend more time looking for parking, that's not eco friendly/etc"



Well driving isn't eco friendly to begin with, so stop driving if you're at all concerned. If we continue to solely accommodate cars that isn't eco friednly either. This project is part of a vision that has safer streets, more efficient land-use, allows people the opportunity to cycle safely, and comfortably and not be dependent on cars.



If more people cycle your 'glidlock' and 'traffic jams' will be reduced. Traffic runs on induced demand, the more car lanes, the demand to drive by car.



This project is the product of a city that has to be able to propser in 10 years, 50 years, and beyond. This cannot be done by car centric planning as we have limited space and a growing population. Also, if the population shrinks cars will have more superfluous space than they already do and this there'll be no problem in turning space over to pedestrians, bicyclists or transit users.



Stop with the complaining and excuses for why this is a bad idea.
Ryan P
Wow, people! No one is forcing you to drive down Broadway or 3rd street. If you're in that much of a hurry to get home then find an alternate route. There are PLENTY of streets that go in the same direction all over Long Beach.
Stop complaining because you can no longer speed at 50 mph down Broadway like a tool.
Kity
LB POST - PLEASE do an in-depth article explaining how the "Bike Signal" traffic left arrow lights work. There is a left arrow on almost every intersection - and also an arrow further out over the intersection on a light pole. What is that second arrow for? Is this to reinforce the "bike signal" or does this mean that vehicles planning to turn left at that intersection need to wait for a green arrow? Please help!
Phil #2
I keep reading comments about this project being funded by federal money, and only for bike lanes. Assuming that is true, I'll start with this, once again, federal, state, city, etc...it's all coming from the same people! In case you don't know it, the federal government is out of money also, so this is a waste of money for federal dollars as well. Just because the money is offered, doesn't mean it has to be used...especially if it's for a ridiculous project such as this. I know it's an unthinkable act for a polictian, but someboday could have said, "no thank you, I don't think the use of this money makes sense!" Also, how can anybody with a sliver of logical reasoning suggest that it's a reasonable response to tell thousands of motorists to take a different route because we need to screw everything up for a handful of bike riders. Jen, you should just move to San Francisco, you're living in some kinda of fantasyland...I can't believe you think overweight people are going to jump on their bike and ride up and down some 2 mile stretch of Broadway and/or 3rd St...The first few weeks the bike path will have riders on it and you people will think it's such a great thing. As soon as the newness wears off it will dwindle down to nobody using it except for a few people with nowhere to go and all day to get there. The screwed up thing is that the thousands of motorists will still be dealing with the gridlock and having the cars get beat up as they drive around the broken up streets of Long Beach.
LAofAnaheim
Good gawd...such negative commentary here! So, the complainers (sounds like the Teabaggers), think the 2.6 miles of dedicated bikeways have made traffic worse? Really? You have approx 10,000 miles of paved streets in Long Beach, yet these 2.6 miles is what caues traffic? Oh, and those 10,000 miles of streets cost significantly more than whatever was spent on the bike lanes. To put in a new HOV lane on the 405 for only 10 miles (on 1 side of the freeway) is costing $1 billion. What's a smarter investment?



Transportation in America is horrid compared to the rest of the world. We have a significant lack of alternative transit options because we dedicate all space to the private automobile. Look at how wide our freeways and roads are...and yet you still need more space? What's going to happen when gas approaches $5, $6 or $7 a gallon? Will you still advocate for roads, or will you finally realize that due to the U.S.'s lack of rail, bus or bike transporation OPTIONS that you are forced to pay $13K a year in car ownership (i.e. gas, parking, maintenance, tickets, insurance). Imagine the amount of money you would save with less expenditures on transportation. Ride a bus, the Blue Line or bike. It may not be reasonable everyday or for everyone, but look at the bike lanes as an OPTION.



By the way, while you are out spending $13K a year on car maintenace, I'm using that money on fine dining, drinking and retail purchases. I have better things to do with that money than waste it on driving all the time.
Unneccesarily Confusing
I just looked over the web pages on BikeLongBeach.org, looking for enlightenment, and it still seems to me that having the separated lane on the left is unneccesarily confusing and costly. I'm in favor of the separation, but if the bike lanes were on the right, the bike riders would only have to obey existing traffic signals and additional signals wouldn't be necessary.



A previous poster pointed out that car drivers are conditioned to look for bike riders on the right, so this configuration could be a problem for anyone turning left into a driveway or alley. Also, it seems that additional congestion is created for vehicle traffic because vehicles turning left now have to wait for a signal, while vehicles in the right lane, turning right, might be waiting for pedestrians to cross. Both lanes are now out of commission.



To say that 90% of the time, two lanes are enough on Broadway or Third Street (as the City's project manager states) is really naive since the point of traffic engineering is to make roads navigable when usage is highest.



Public acceptance depends on the buy-in of all stakeholders. Making it confusing for vehicle drivers, as well as bike riders, does help that. Hooray for separated bike lanes! Meh for the confusion.
LBRes
I drove down Third Street today and saw cyclists everywhere but the bike lane. Well, that's not true. There was one person going the wrong way down the Third Street bike lane. What is the plan to educate cyclists and get them to use the lanes?
Johnny Utah
La of Anaslim
let's get some things straight her pal
the bike lanes lead to nowhere
this city -actually this whole country is getting bigger, hence more people=more cars
not all of us spend time in our cars
I ride a LeMond almost every weekend
mass transportation is not cool in So. CA and people like their cars. Will always be and there is nothing you can do about it.
long beach cpa
Geez ... it was only $750k of federal money needed to screw up traffic more. (and by the way, I'm a life long bike rider ... please ... someone saw 12 people during rush hour in the lanes ... 12 whole people?)
U R A Poser
Was this really a $750k project? I can think of a few other areas this money could have been spent in regards to transportation. Thank you, happy reading, and I bid you a good day because I'm clueless.
DinLBC
Not sure the writers suggesting that traffic is being reduced on the streets by eliminating a traffic lane and replacing it with the bike lanes actual use the impacted streets. The bike lanes have removed a lane of traffic from a few of the busiest thorough fares in the city. And, I have only seen 1 bike rider use the lanes during rush hour. Let's stop pretending that this will encourage people to ride their bikes instead of driving.

This project is a big mistake for the city. The left hand turn from Alamitos onto Broadway was already dangerous - merging into oncoming traffic - and the taking away of a driving lane has made the turn even more dangerous.

The the caption on the photo above maybe incorrect, as cars are directed out of the driving lanes into the bike lanes to access the Post Office mail boxes. The boxes are being blocked by the four door, grey sedan.
Thank you AJE
Actually, I think the new bike lanes fit in PERFECTLY with other recent Long Beach manifestations such as the Macrame Massacre, The Orange IUD, Spikey Things in Blighted Ocean Ave, the always thriving Pike, and the wonderful Chinese imported merchandise being sold in the Art District. The New Bike Lanes to Nowhere are a great addition, and certainly is the Feel Good Federally Funded event of the year!
To VV
VV....you forgot to mention the $750+ Federal Dollars spent in your "anit-bike lane argument". I mean, as long as you are going to miss the most obvious point, you better get it right, huh? Thank you, and happy reading.
vietnam vet
suicide is very convenient. The way it has been is how it should always be. I want what I want. Change is bad. Who cares about pollution? The majority should get everything and the minority nothing. Bikes are second class; cars have all the rights. There is an endless supply of gasoline. Adding two minutes to my 30 minute commute is on par with the holocaust. If something isnt perfect, it's better not to do it...just stick with something really crappy until it can be perfect; improving it isn 't good enough unless it's perfect.



And that, my friends, is a summary of anit-bike lane arguments.
Think About It
I second UCLA GRAD and love VIETNAM VET's anti-bike lane summary.



Pleople need to remember that this is a PILOT PROGRAM that made possible by Federal funds we wouldn't have gotten otherwise. It's a test. This will be analyzed after to see if it's worth it. If not, I assure you it will go back the the old congested contaminating speeding accident prone traffic you want and miss so much.



I really enjoy the bike lanes and makes locals like myself more likely to go downtown and visit, and spend my money.



I would like it if they share how they will report a year later. What numbers will make it "successful/ unsuccessful".
vietnam vet
oh yeah, i forgot: Taking a half of a penny (I'm rounding up) from every taxpayer in the country for bike lanes is an obscene form of economic slavery. However, the many dollars in oil subsidies I pay every year are just fine, because oil is awesome man! So please, Federal government, keep the 1.18 california gives you for each dollar we get back, and keep propping up the sugar and corn industries, keep funding tobacco ads in china, keep bailing out banks, but for cryin out loud, DONT spend money on roads for anything but the internal combustion engine (article 1, section 8 of the US Constitution - written long before cars were invented - notwithstanding).



There is that better?
peddler
It is inappropriate to expect to cruise through the heart of a major city's downtown area. Every city in america has congestion in its central downtown. Use 6th and ocean. Use anaheim. You have many alternatives. Cyclists have very few.
Good Logic There!
Yup. $750K+ on a year long bike study with Federal Dollars in a state that is bankrupt makes perfect sense to me.
DF
@Simpleton, I'm not trying to make this a you versus me thing either. I'm just responding to your arguments, I hope in a respectful manner. Tone gets lost in the internet sometimes, especially with the rampant antagonism often found in the comments sections of news articles and blogs.

Do I think that it's justified that drivers should add a couple or a few minutes to their commute either by continuing to go down these lanes or by diverting to Ocean/7th? Yes, but not just because it would "save a few minutes" for cyclists. These lanes are significantly safer for cyclists, and therefore encourage more people to use alternate modes of transportation, mainly bicycling. I acknowledge that the design of the lanes isn't perfect yet. However, it's still safer than before and can always be improved upon. Further, cycling is a healthy activity and with the increasing rate of obesity in this country, encouraging active lifestyles through our infrastructure is not a bad idea. Not only do cyclists feel safer because of these lanes, but the reduced speed of cars on these corridors makes pedestrians feel safer. When pedestrians feel safer, they're more likely to walk--also an active lifestyle worth encouraging--and shop in local businesses. Studies also show that cyclists are more likely to shop locally than drivers. So, in essence, this project encourages not just cycling, but more street life, active lifestyles, more local shopping (ie local tax revenue), and a safer environment. That is why I am okay with tacking on a couple or a few minutes to commutes.

Also, your framing that Broadway/Third St are main arteries to the 710 ignores the reality that they aren't just thoroughfares to get to the freeway, but commercial corridors, which could benefit, as I explained earlier, from a safer environment. It also ignores the fact that there are reasonable alternatives routes to get to the freeway. In light of the substantial possible benefits to the downtown community and Long Beach as a whole, the extra few minutes is fine with me.

Of course, you don't have to agree with anything I just said. :) This is a pilot project after all, and if it doesn't work out this way, it can always be changed. I'm supportive of the experiment, though, especially since it has achieved great success elsewhere.
Guy Haines
From my standpoint, the issue isn't so much a question of bike lanes vs. no bike lanes--I think there is room for all modes of travel on the many miles of streets within the City, as other commenters have noted. Rather, I take issue with the premise and execution of the project. The premise seemed to be, above all else, to play a zero sum game with the automobile to make a bold statement for bicycles, rather than to examine what was best in the long run for accommodating bicycles (and other modes of travel). As other commenters have noted, these lanes do not connect to any other paths; rather, they end quite awkwardly at Alamitos and the 710 freeway. Other streets, such as 4th Street or 1st Street, could have been equipped with "sharrows" or other temporary markings as a "pilot", and both of these streets connect to points east of Alamitos in a much less awkward (i.e., safer) manner.

While the outcome will likely be neither of the doomsday traffic scenario nor the utopian Copenhagen style bicycling environment proffered depending on your point of view, it is a shame that the underlying premise of the lanes resulted in an outcome that is sub-optimal for both bicyclists and automobiles
Simpleton
DF, no offense was taken. I used poor word choices. What I was trying to say is this problem shouldn't be looked at in the abstract. Yes it might be easier for a car to divert, but there are thousands of them for every bike.

So having some extra time this morning, I decided to go count the bikes at rush hour. Didn't count cars, but saw hundreds of them heading west. The back-up on Ocean started almost a mile before Alamitos.

Coming from the south, that new west turn on 3rd is an accident (accidents) waiting to happen. I arrived a little before 8:00 am, and drove all the way down to Maine. I saw one cyclist on 3rd, heading the wrong way. Cut down to Broadway, and went back to Alamitos. No bikes on Broadway. Did the loop again and this time, not a single cyclist.

A couple of other notes: 1) glad to see they didn't take away the third lane on Broadway until after the civic center. Would hate to inconvenience the city workers. 2) there was a dipstick that wedged into a non-space on Broadway to talk on his cellphone. And yes, that did take Broadway down to one lane (as would parallel parking). Not a big deal in the morning, but that is the main choke point during the evening rush hour.

Lastly, what the heck is the retail vacancy rate downtown? 50%? 60%? 70%? It looks more like Riverside than coastal California. We don't need more redevelopment downtown; we need more bulldozers. Who built all this space, and why?
Rich
Short points.
#1) If Long Beach wants to BE bike friendly then take 4 minutes at the next city council and all say "Aye" to quickly remove all requirement for bicycle licenses in the city. Done deal. NO need for debate.

#2) What is at either end of the bike lane, or in between them that is an attraction for bike riders?

#3) Sure, this is FEDERAL money. It is still TAXPAYER dollars that come from working people. If Long Beach and hundreds of other cities/states had the integrity to say "We don't really need this project at this time. Here is your money back." Billions of dollars would be saved, and the budget may come closer to a balance. Oh well, one can dream.
Randy Boyd
Thumbs up on the new bikeways, although I prefer to call them trikkeways, seeing as how I ride a Trikke.

Why do I love the bikeways/trikkeways?

For a carless citizen like myself, it's nice to have an alternative to walking, busses and cabs. It also feels much safer than the street or the sidewalk, and it's great way too commute east to west and vice versa downtown!

Good job, LBC, here's hoping the bikeways become permanent!
Paul
Some on our Council continue to use New York City as a model for Long Beach. Like the crackerbox idea, pack em in. Bike lanes, rickshaws, or what ever,'Progressive' idea comes along, they go for it. How about a clean crime free city? That must be too boring, and does not get the acclaim from splinter groups. Disgusting, but now some of these same people want higher office. They are a good example of why Californa has fallen to the bottom, in many areas.
Clueless VV
Nice try VV, but no. The money could be spent on a few other things other than this current temporary study of a feel good bike path to nowhere. As if all the money goes to cars, and cars only. Nice attempt to slant an argument, but it kinda comes off ingnorant.....and that's ok. To imply that Federal Money only goes to cars related issues, while we go bankrupt is so lame I think it best we ignore you and move on. So yes, this is "better". Thank you and happy reading.
THE GUARDIAN
I like the Vietnam Vet's summary. Looking at the pictures and understanding the intent of it I think the stakeholders and designers of this program fell short of a full application eliminating enhanced and new danger exposures.

We need professionals that can plan this out to incorporate safe and proper ingress and egress to the bike lanes by bicyclists. We definitely need to relocate the median curb from the right side of the painted median to the left to allow for a driver walkway with one crosswalk for the drivers to get across to the sidewalk.

As for the second picture with cars in the bike lane, did we really communicate this effectively? I mean a real communication effort? How about enforcement? What did we have in place to prevent cars from entering the bike lane or at least an official to explain how the driver really messed up?

We have a community culture to shift here (that is one heck of an undertaking reading all the comments below). With gas prices climbing and people looking to alternatives, this really needs to be considered as a viable alternative and with that proper methods to roll it out and change the culture. Basically, if we are going to do it (and I believe it is inevitable) then let's do it right before we kill someone.

And to explain my display name - I am an HSE professional and my priority job is to make sure all my people go home with the same number of fingers and toes as they came to work with everyday. Are we accomplishing that with this project? The jury may be out on that one...
Old Biker
These bike paths are about a practical as new paint for the Queen Mary. There is confusion at intersections whether the bicycles will be required to stop or not. What about the pedestrians who walk in the bike lane and the bicyclists who still ride on the street? Is this another trick to further confuse visiting motorists about our select one direction streets? This was an awful lot of our money thrown down the pit of good intention that we all know will seldom be used ultimatley. Why not lower all the fees and fines the city charges so much for since it had all this money for this needless project?
JohnLB
I'm sorry, but I ride motorcycles as well as bicycles and have been known to get behind the wheel of a car now and then. Have we become that unable to accept responsibility for our own actions that we actually need a special lane for bicycles? Or are our cities become that afraid of lawsuits? People have been riding bikes along side of cars for over 100 years. If you cannot co-exist then the term "thinning the herd" comes to mind. Ride smart and you won't need a special lane.
GEM
Yesterday (Monday) while walking to lunch down Broadway there were no less than 5 bikes on the sidewalk, which I had to dodge. I don't think the bike lane on the left was such a good idea.
thinker
man I cannot BELIEVE the ignorance on here.

1. Broadway lost a lane from the 710 to alamitos. It doesnt "stop at the civic center".

2. The bike registration requirement was removed earlier this year. There is no bike "licensing" requirement and never was.

3. Give back the federal money would "save billions?" Uh, no. Give back the money would mean another state gets it.

4. Are we saying the federal government should give NO MONEY to cities for bike infrastructure? If so, why are we not also demanding they give no money to the oil industry? In case you're wondering, the oil subsidies exceed bike subsidies by many orders of magnitude. Where are the complaints about that? 750 thousand dollars is NOTHING in the federal budget, so if you're concerned about overspending, you're barking up the wrong tree.

5. Keep in mind California sends 1.18 to DC for every buck we get.
Cheri Kinley
Simple question: How do people with disabilities get to the sidewalk now??? I don't see any wheelchair curb cuts or breaks in that long curb, but they still have parking spots. The people in the cars have to traverse the bike lane now? I don't understand the thinking.
Geir
I think a lot of the vitriol about these lanes is born from the same irrational anger that some drivers seem to have for bicyclists in general. In the bikes vs. cars "war", though, only bicyclists are dying, and the vast majority of the accidents are the fault of the operator of the motor vehicle. That is why bike lanes make sense.

As for these lanes, I ride them pretty much every day, and I think they confuse cyclists as much as drivers. The harlequin pattern of black, green, and white stripes is bewildering, but hopefully everyone will get used to it over time, as well as the more egregious design errors being adressed. The placement of the lanes on the left is strange, I think - I would love to hear from the city what the thinking behind this was.

The lanes also begin and end in awkward places, and it's not clear what a rider is supposed to do next when they bottom out at Alamitos.

A few suggestions regarding the curb - it should be painted white so that pedestrians can see them at night. I've seen people trip over them (they are jaywalking, but still), and cars drive over them. I understand that these are a part of an experiment and thus need to be built in a way that they can be removed without major surgery, but I think that the curb would be better as a 3-ft piece of sidewalk instead, with the parking meters set on top - this would provide physical and visual separation, and prevent drivers from turning their ankles when they get out of parked cars (this is really awkward now).

Like the lanes, and with a few changes, might come to love them.
Johnny Utah
For the thinker that clearly does not think:
Listen pal--In case you haven't noticed...this city has a HUGE gang problem. There is a shooting, stabbing, murder every night in case you have not noticed. The money could have gone to make this city better by wiping out these thugs with more police, more blitz kreigs on gangs, solving drug problems etc.
The crooked cronie politicians just want bike lanes. Yay!
hello I know how to read
oh dear GOD HELP ME!!!! Johnny Utah and EVERYONE for the ONE HUNDREDTH TIME: You cannot take money from the federal government that they give you for BIKE LANES and just use it for gangs/potholes/ or whatever you want. The money was obtained through a GRANT offered by the FED for BIKE LANES. That's it! You CANNOT USE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE> How many times do you people need to be told this before you get it? It's not rocket science. Maybe you think the federal government should give NO MONEY for bikes, but that isn't how your representatives voted. If you think that, write to CONGRESS and tell them to take EVERY PENNY of money for bikes and use it for gang prevention instead. Until then, quit your ignorant whining!!!!!!!
traffic hater
Broadway and Third yesterday at rush hour were pretty much empty of cars. Gridlock my foot.
Rich
Thinker...or is it Stinker. Read and let the words into your head. You say there never was a licensing requirement in Long Beach. Are you saying that LBPost does not print reality?...and that the Long Beach Police Department gives tickets for non-existent laws? You say the bike registration was lifted, then you say it never existed. So much for your credibility.

1/19 LBPost article comments Campos soon discovered that Long Beach, which claims to be "The Most Bike Friendly City in America," is one of the few Cities in the State that enforces a mandatory bicycle registration program. Because he isn't a resident, and Tustin doesn't enforce such a rule, his bike wasn't registered. Much to his horror, his $1,200 custom built bicycle was thrown to the ground by an officer, and soon had other bikes piled on top of it, all of which were loaded onto a big flat-bed truck.

About giving back federal money. I suggested that if "Long Beach and hundreds of other cities/states" gave money back or refused it in the first place we could save billions of dollars. That means that everyone stop the Porkbarreling...and be more fiscally responsible we could straighten out our budget mess. Just because another city is wasting Federal dollars (taken from productive working people) does not mean we should grab some too.

So much for that. I do not think the "thinker" thinks deeply enough to be taken seriously.
Johnny Utah
Money is money and should NOT be wasted. There are ways around in doing things for the BETTER and not the worse for this crime infested city. If we wanted federal money, there should have been negotiations on how to use it. I'd rather have it go to Rhode Island on better clam chowder than have it go to something absolutely worthless.
fix the problems
I love the concept of the separated bike lanes, but...

Why are they on the left? Seriously, did the designers not see the mail boxes? Wouldn't there be less need to re-educate everyone if the folks on bikes rode on the same side of the road as they always have in the past?

Why are the lanes that large? If they had made them smaller than bikes could still use them and cars could not!

Why are there not better/more signs "no cars allowed?"

Fix these problems now.. and for all future bike lanes in LB and I'll be on board!
LAofAnaheim
How many lanes of paved roads for your cars do you need? We build 2 lane roads....traffic, then a 4 lane road...traffic, then a 6 lane freeway....traffic....then an 8 lane freeway.......traffic. Do you get the drift? The more roads you build --> great demand for car usage --> more convenient to drive --> more drivers on the road --> more asphalt taking to cars.....



You know why LA/LB is park poor and sprawled out? Because we keep adhering to the needs of the private automobile. Do you reasonably expect to pay cheap gas in the future? What's wrong with letting bike riders get some equality? How many more times do we put the needs of drivers above people?
Ryan M
Okay I understand now that the money could ONLY be used for bike lanes. However, I still think it was HORRIBLE planning and execution.

Like many have said, WHY did they put them on the left side?

And I'd like to add, WHY did they choose 3rd Street and Broadway? These two streets end at the freeway. Do they really think cyclists want to bike down to the freeway entrance? WTF? And the biggest issue is taking away a full lane of traffic on these main throughfares to the freeway.

A better solution would have been to put the bike lanes on the right side, and on streets that don't end at the freeway (4th/5th, etc). Or maybe along Ocean, where you can get a great view while biking. Of course with people speeding along Ocean all the time, they'd have to lower the speed limit or something else to make it safer.
thinker
Rich: Do I really have to explain to you that registration and licensing are two different things? I figured anyone with car knew that. So I repeat: There was never a licensing requirement, there WAS a registration requirement, but Council abolished it earlier this year. I wont hold my breath waiting for your apology. But do us a favor and learn to read.

http://www.gazettes.com/news/government/article_9640fc7c-348f-11e0-84d3-001cc4c03286.html

"Mandatory bicycle registration now is a thing of the past, thanks to City Council's unanimous vote Tuesday evening to amend the city's municipal code"

Fix the problems: The mailboxes have been moved.

Everyone with questions complaints: It's a trial project. And you're not traffic engineers. Maybe be a bit more humble with your questions, instead of acting so certain that no one thought of them or can give a good answer. If you want answers, dont post comments here - call the city! Sheesh
JW
if safe bikeways had been installed throughout our communities over the years of constantly simply repairing roads, we would have developed a bike culture in addition to our car culture. Some of us would be healthier by choice, but we would all have an additional option of transportation - one that is healthy, encourages a greater density of small businesses (based on average distance of travel), and encourages contact with other people out from behind the glass shield. Furthermore, biking does not give all of one's PERSONAL dollars to wealthy modern royalty in the middle east. Unfortunately, we became addicted to indebting ourselves individually in the form of energy consumption - simply to 'go faster'. This urge to 'go faster' spread our communities apart, so that now we think it's 'novel' to be able to walk easily to get groceries... To all those nay-sayers who probably also thought the internet was a bad idea at first...: How many more times in your life are you going to bow down to rich folks across the atlantic ocean with your 40, 50, 60, or even 70 dollar tank refills? How long will you continue to pour in your own tax dollars to pay for subsidies to the otherworldly-rich oil companies headed by people who see you as a number, a pawn? To those naysayers: I assure you we will get to a point where even you can't afford the gas with your big ol' wallet you like to use to slap the rest of us in the face. Then, as you rage on about how you swear there's more oil somewhere and you go to war with people to get the last drops, we will ride our bikes into a new era with our slim bodies and you will sit and collect your welfare and eat your mcdonalds and expire along with your old, dead era. GOOD riddance. It's comin soon - don't doubt it. You can't stop it.
Geir
Ryan M - The bike lanes terminate at the 710, but it's not a dead end. Bike paths continue up the LA river.
re: JW
Maybe if you're a hippie that doesn't have a job, or you are one of the 2% of people lucky enough to live less than a mile from work, these bike lanes are useful for transportation. In the real world, people still have to rely on cars to get to work. Or are you saying EVERYONE should bike to work, even if it's 10 miles away? Of course if public transportation in this area wasn't such a joke, maybe more people would take that. I know I'd take a bus/train if there was one along the 405, but that's opening another can of worms.
Manny
The bike lane is on the left because of bus stops. A Bus must pull to the right, to to reconfigure the bus stops would be ridiculous. This whole mess should of been busway.
David
When streets are safer for cyclists, then there will be more than just a "few" of them. Congestion is caused by using huge, 3000 lb. vehicles to carry one 150 lb. person. Cars are grossly for their intended task, and are simply not the right choice for city transport. More bicycles = less congestion, but we will only have more bicyles when we make the streets safer for bicycles. This is a step in the right direction.
re: re: JW
I don't always bike to work, sometimes I take a car and sometimes I take a bus.. but I live about 7 miles from my work and I do bike when it's nice outside. I realize that's a long way, but the river path makes it easy. My post was just about how we could have had a great multi-option transit culture by now. I mean, everyone knows that we let narrow-mindedness and a fascination with car lead us here. But we can't be so jaded. New bike lanes should be seen as a positive change. We can correct them where they have design flaws - but most naysayers here simply don't want them at all. And I am here to say that if we actually believe the oil lobby who tells us everything will be okay - we are really not thinking at all. Of Course prices will go up for gas, of course - no doubt about it. Unavoidable. So what are we going to do 30 years down the road? Will transportation start costing us just as much as rent? And will we just pay it? I opt for the free and healthy cycling option. And I fully and whole-heartedly support this and any other bike lane. We CAN make things better.
Mike Ruehle
I've driven home down Broadway between the 710 and Alamitos every day this week between 5:00 - 6:00 pm. Yesterday was the first day I saw a biker using the bike lane. Keep in mind, I had a lot of time to observe because the traffic was backed up from the car lane elimination. It make me wonder which century this project will be paid off, if ever.
Bresson
I used to take Broadway through downtown from the 710 to where I live in Alamitos Beach. Traffic was always horrible. When these bike lanes went up I abandoned Broadway and now I take Shoreline around downtown and I realized that Shoreline is better suited for that type of traffic. If you dont live in downtown, dont drive through it. Simple as that.
Happy Biker
The new bike lanes are wonderful and I'm disappointed so many people don't get that. First, it took a lot of time and money (for instance, ripping out old tram lines) to get Southern California to be so car-oriented. The idea that folks in Southern CA will always be wedded to cars for everything they do is not true. It's about habits. Second, for this reason it's silly to pass judgement on the bike lanes when they are so new. We have to give people time to start using them (and for car drivers to not park cars in them!). Third, the closing of the 7th St./22 bridge means there is more traffic coming through downtown. I now do that, for instance, coming home from work. But even so there is not a huge increase in congestion. Fourth, as a biker around town, I LOVE the new bike lanes. They have transformed the downtown. I use them all the time. It makes downtown so much more livable and sane, and that is good for the city as a whole.
Just Saying
These new bike lanes are a lawsuit waiting to happen. Only two people in the top picture are wearing helmets and in the bottom two pictures you see cars illegally driving in bike lanes. I hope I get the family of the first brained bike rider as a client so I can sue the City for not clearly marking the bike lanes as such or for failure to construct the lanes in a manner that prevents cars from entering. A 40% contingency on a $10M judgment/settlement is $4M - that will almost make my year. Thank you LB.
yo
The idea of increasing capacity to decrease traffic does not work. Look at the 405 between seal beach blvd and the 605 - its something like 16 lanes wide, but still always backs up. This bike lane is a good step for traffic mitigation and accessability.

Although LB needs to stop doing this piecewise cr@p and figure out a good, comprehensive plan that works for everyone (as best as it can at least).

KJinCali79
In theory I support dedicated bike lanes and increased biker safety and more bike-friendly intiatives. However, I do question whether these main thoroughfares were the best place to put these lanes. Bikes can fit more easily onto auxilliary streets, rather than have more cars pushed from these main streets into neighboring narrow streets.

As to the mailbox photo: I personally was confused the first time I went to mail something in those mailboxes. I ended up circling back around the entire block (since it's a one way street), parked and walked into the post office. Much less convenient and more time consuming, and that was with me being lucky enough to find a parking spot. Hopefully they can move the boxes somewhere else.



I do think the design of these lanes is very dangerous, but not for bicyclists. The problem I have with the design is the row of parked cars which block the line of sight from anyone pulling out, and into traffic, from a parking lot or driveway. For example, if you are coming out of driveway and have to cross the bike path to get into the lanes of traffic, you can see the bikers because they are right in front of you, but you can't see the car traffic moving in the street whether you're turning left or right because of the row of parked cars blocking your view so far away from the curb you are exiting. I've seen numerous others have this problem and they get stuck trying to get into traffic, and end up blocking the bike lane anyway as they try to inch out to see traffic.



Long story short, my opinion is good concept, but bad design!
Bill
The bike lanes are fantastic - a far-sighted innovation for the future of the city. They make me proud to live in Long Beach. I've noticed no decline in traffic flow and have seen tons of people using the new bike lanes and the new bike racks, too, all over town. Hats off to the people who made this happen, and who are actively trying to create a better Long Beach (instead of sitting around posting nasty comments on LBPost all day and spouting off about stuff like they're transit engineers).
Mike Ruehle
Just drove down Broadway again on my way home. NOT A SINGLE BIKER ALONG THE ENTIRE ROUTE.
April Economides
I'm grateful for these separated bikes lanes, as my five-year-old daughter and I now feel safe riding downtown. Before, we'd stop at Alamitos, but now, we can eat and shop in the East Village and on Pine, which helps those bizs. I ride the lanes to meetings, cafes and other functions/businesses downtown almost daily and have yet to see a car in the bike lane. With these lanes, not only am I safer, but my trip is shorter and more direct. Supporting bicycling - a form of transport that predates the car (i.e. we commuter bicyclists have just as much 'right' to the road as car drivers) - is a smart way to support efforts to keep children and adults healthy since it fights obesity and other ailments, thereby reducing health costs. Fewer of us who drive translates to healthier air, less congested streets, more abundant car parking for those who need it most, a happier citizenry, and proven benefits to neighboring businesses, just to name a few. Many business owners and political conservatives, both locally and nationally, realize the business benefits of bicyclists, such as Thomas Bowden: http://www.commutebybike.com/2010/12/11/how-to-talk-about-cycling-to-a-conservative/. So if you're truly into family values, healthy children, and being All-American, you can't beat the old-fashioned bicycle.
Hey Now
Long Beach is a great town if you are a gay bicyclist.
Brian
SO!, Is the Long Beach Police Dept. finally going to get off of their asses and start enforcing the bicycle laws? For example: Riding bikes on the sidewalk. This still happens. The other day I was almost hit twice while walking down broadway by bicyclists on the sidewalk, and YES, IT WAS THE SIDE OF THE STREET THE BIKE LANE WAS ON!!! The lazy putz's could not move 3' and be in the bike lane.



LONG BEACH PD, WHERE ARE YOU?



It doesn't do a damn bit of good to have bike lanes if people still ride on the sidewalks. Not only is this unsafe, it is illegal in the State of California.
Mike Ruehle
Its Sunday Morning at 11:05 am. I just finished driving down Broadway from the 710 to Alamitos and saw NOT A SINGLE BIKER on the bike lane. However, there was one jogger illegally in the bike lane where he probably knew he wouldn't have to worry about running into anyone.



I've driven this stretch 6 out of the last 7 days and have seen only one biker using the bike lane.



I'm a supporter of bike paths and increasing bike ridership. However, this bike lane to nowhere is ill-designed and was a TOTAL WASTE OF TAXPAYERS MONEY. Anyone associated with its creation should be rode out of town on something more uncomfortable than their bike.
Confused
While trying to keep an open mind, I've come to the conclusion that this project is an accident waiting to happen, especially on Broadway. It's difficult already for out-of-towners exiting the 710 onto Broadway to try to figure out where they're going - now they're faced with cyclists passing them on the left as they are making left-hand turns. While watching coverage on Charter Channel 3 of the benefits of this new project, an example was shown of a car making a left-hand turn into a parking structure as a cyclist was passing on the left. The cyclist had to come to an abrupt halt in order not to be hit by the car.....EXACTLY!
Dan
The Phils fear change. The shit is crowded because people drive EVERYWHERE even when they don't have to, then get enraged when they have to slow down a bit. Leave earlier, deal with it. Have you ever driven downtown during non rush hour? It's empty, three lanes-not needed.During rush hour, things are no faster, theres just as many red lights.

The 25 (not 300) spaces lost are easily made up for by people not driving to downtown but instead, riding their bikes.

Your right about the majority of commuters driving. You have to make it sensible and safe for them to choose biking before they actually will.Cycling is not some fad, it's transportation, just like a car, and it costs NOTHING. If everyone who was able to ride a bike did, they'd loose that belly and start screwing their wives again.

This is one of those things that people who can't adapt well will lose their minds over.Then, in ten years, after it's completely commonplace and normal, they'll crawl out of their hole again looking for something other new idea to resist.

I do agree, the lanes should been on the right side though, that should have been considered.

Lastly,the cost of these lanes was paid for by federal money set aside specifically for these types of improvements.
@Dan
Your babbling confirms the bicyclist need to wear helmets. You have obviously suffered some type of brain injury.
Fisch
Rickster said: "Is taking 20 minutes to find a place to park really green?"

No, it isn't. But, in the 20 minutes you've spent circling the block in your car because you're too lazy to walk a few hundred extra feet, I've ridden my bike to the store, got what I needed, and am on my way back home, secretly laughing at every motorist I pass on the way. Have fun with that impending heart attack.
LB Lover
Hey Mikey Ruehle, instead of spending all of your time judging and commenting on what everyone else is doing, why don't you try getting out from behind the ol' steering wheel and getting on a bike? You might actually like it, and it's great for weight loss, too. Your heart will most assuredly thank you.
Osama bin Long Beach
When will you all learn? The City leaders dont have a single working brain cell between them all. How pathetic. You and I voted/not voted them in. I have traveled to dozens of cities and LB is by far the lamest. It gets proven everyday, through stories and experiences like this. Organize, protest, take the city back. Or else, they'll continue to waste (your) time and (your) money. You know the saying, crap apples dont fall far from the crap apple tree. Or, how about the blind leading the blind?
Johnny Utah
Osama LBC-are you my twin?
Great post!
AviationMetalSmith
But Bike Lanes should have been built 65 or 70 years ago, or when autos first started to threaten and endanger cyclists. The League of American Bicyclists was demanding Bike Lanes on every road in 1934.
Anyway, I hope more people figure out the fact that cycling can cover much more distance than walking, five times the distance really, so I don't know how anybody could not think of cycling as transportation.
Get a bike and learn.
Stevola
This is pure idiocy. I couldn't believe it when I saw the row of parked cars down the middle of the street and the traffic lanes reduced to two. I believe it now after slogging through the newly created stop and go traffic. So far I have seen exactly one bicyclist using the lanes. There must be some granola-sniffing warmers behind this lunacy. Begone!
nancy
While I love the idea of protecting bike riders, this is a HUGE problem for pedestrians not familiar to the area. I was in Long Beach last night for an art walk and returning to my car in the dark I missed the additional curb and splattered myself in the street, bloodying my knees and an elbow. Maybe if the new inner curbs were not the same color as the blacktop this might happen to fewer folks.

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