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UPDATE: More Press-Telegram Employees Laid Off; Sports, Photo Departments Moved to Torrance

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UPDATE Friday, July 1, 10:45am | Steven Georges, one of the two former Press-Telegram photojournalists who was laid off on Monday, contacted us on Thursday to provide  more specific information as to the number of years he and his former colleague, Diandra Jay, had worked for the Long-Beach-based daily newspaper.

Georges said he had been with the PT for more than 18 years, and Jay had been with the paper for more than 11.

UPDATE Tuesday, June 28, 7:01pm | The photography and sports departments at the Press-Telegram have ceased to exist, with most of those formerly employed in those departments now reporting for work at the Daily Breeze as employees of the Torrance daily newspaper.

Their first day at the Breeze was Tuesday.

The employees of those departments three weeks ago were forced to reapply for their jobs at the PT's sister paper, and not all of them made the cut, according to information provided by the PT's Kristopher Hanson.

Former PT staff photographers Steven Georges and Diandra Jay on Monday were handed pink slips and told to clear out their desks. The same was the case for sports columnist Frank Burlison, who was also laid off Monday.

Georges had been with the PT for more than 15 years, Hanson said, and Jay, for more than 10. Burlison, however, had both of them beat, having worked for the PT for more than 20 years.

Just the night before, on Sunday, Jay walked away with an award from the Los Angeles Press Club during its 53rd annual awards gala. She took first place in sports photo for a shot entitled "Celebration."

"The Press-Telegram has lost some of its longtime names," Hanson said. "It's all very confusing at this point."

A steward for the union representing all PT employees, Hanson described this latest downsizing at the hands of the PT's parent company, Media NewsGroup, as "the breaking up of a family." 

Day City Editor Rose Fitzpatrick has also been laid off, her last day having been Friday.

The PT's one-man features department is being shuttered, too, with Thursday expected to be Al Rudis' last day, Hanson said.

Last week, Los Angeles Newspaper Group, the branch of MediaNews Group that oversees the PT, laid off 70 employees from its other nine member papers.

UPDATE Friday, April 29, 3:25pm | The Long Beach Press-Telegram's Kristopher Hanson has clarified that only two editors at the local daily newspaper received actual pink slips Friday, while the remaining employees whose departments are being shuttered and outsourced to the Daily Breeze were told they can apply for a limited number of available positions at the Torrance daily.

"Essentially, these people are being let go," Hanson said in reference to the dozen or so staffers who work in the photo, sports and features departments. 

It is not known exactly how many positions will be made available at the Breeze.

Hanson is a steward for the union representing PT staffers, Southern California Media Guild Local 9400. He said that as far as the union is concerned, PT parent company MediaNews Group Inc.'s announcement Friday is nothing more than a union-busting attempt.

MediaNews Group also owns the Breeze, but that paper is not unionized, meaning any currently unionized PT employees who successfully apply for and obtain jobs at the Breeze would no longer be represented by the guild.

Hanson noted, however, that PT staffers' contracts feature language guaranteeing them continued union representation so long as they continue to contribute content and work to the PT regardless of where they are located.
 
"Our (the union's) position is that these are jobs being transferred to another location," meaning the employees would retain their union representation.

The affected employees and the union are scheduled to meet with the company next Wednesday, May 3, Hanson said.

"It's outrageous to do this," Hanson said. "You're going to have photographers and sports writers covering Long Beach from Torrance."

He said that this is the third time such a situation has cropped up in the last three years.

First it was the copy desk and design and production department, which were outsourced in 2008. That was followed by the outsourcing of the circulation department in 2009, he said. The functions of these departments and the copy desk were all outsourced to non-unionized locations, he added.

Asked to describe the mood at PT headquarters Friday, Hanson said "people are upset."

Friday, April 29, 12:01pm | The Long Beach Post has learned that a number of Long Beach Press-Telegram employees are being laid off in what appears to be the next phase of its bankrupt parent company's efforts to reorganize.

The PT's executive city editor, John Futch, and day city editor, Rose Fitzpatrick, have both received pink slips. Their positions will no longer exist effective June 30, though sources said a new news editor-type position will be created to fill their shoes. 
 
Additionally, the sports, photography and features departments are all being outsourced to the Daily Breeze, meaning all five of the paper's staff photographer, six sports staff writers and three features department employees stand to lose their jobs.
 
The photographers are Stephen Carr, Steven Georges, Jeff Gritchen, Diandra Jay and Brittany Murray.

The sports writers are Frank Burlison, David Felton, Bob Keisser, Doug Krikorian, Robert Morales and Dave Werstine. The sports department lost its editor, Joe Haakenson, almost one year ago, when he was laid off.

The features editor is Leo Smith. The features writer is Al Rudis, and the entertainment calendar compiler in the features department is Robin Deemer.

Sources at the paper said that PT employees from the three departments to be outsourced are being invited to apply for a select number of positions with the Daily Breeze.

In recent months PT staffers, along with staffers at all of the newspapers owned by the PT's parent company, have been faced with mandatory furloughs.

The PT has been reduced to a skeletal staff over the last few years thanks to previous rounds of layoffs and the wide-sweeping voluntary departure of a host of some of the paper's best and most seasoned staff writers and editors in response to the downsizing measures of its parent company, MediaNews Group Inc.

The company in February 2008  axed all of the PT's copy desk positions and did away with the design department. The functions of both have since been handled at the non-unionized Daily Breeze, also owned by Singleton, according to the So Cal Media Guild, the union representing many of the remaining PT employees.
 
MediaNews Group, owned by William Dean Singleton, purchased the PT in late 1997.  In recent years, the company's financial troubles, including filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization last year, have taken a harsh toll on the local publication.

PT staff writer Kristopher Hanson, who serves as a union steward at the PT, confirmed the layoffs moments ago. Additional information is forthcoming, so stay tuned for updates later today.

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PTer
No pink slips were issued. Photogs and sports reporters are being transferred to the Daily Breeze and the photog is Brittany Murray. Not Murphy.

If you hope to be the voice of Long Beach then you should try to be accurate.
Allison E., editor
Thanks for your comment, PTer. Our initial post has been updated with information clarifying some of the facts you call into question.
Johnny Utah
LB needs current news immediately. We don't have it! There is a ghetto bird flying over a Los Altos neighborhood right now and NOTHING. Get out there and investigate!
Kate K
That is such crap to hear. John Futch has been a mentor to several people, and Diandra Jay just won a press award. Outsourcing local news is like stocking a Parisian bakery with baguettes from Orowheat.
FormerPTer
Go to the source......Dean Singleton......he's destroyed most newspapers he's acquired......just took the money and screwed all the employees. He has zero concern for local, community-based news.
LOS ALTOS NEIGHBOR
THERE IS PLENTY OF COMMUNITY NEWS THAT IS POSITIVE AND FUN TO SHARE.ITS THE LACK OF SUCCESSFUL
ADVERTISERS GETTING A RETURN ON DOLLARS SPENT.GO SEE CAL. AND THE REST OF OUR AD BASE IN CERRITOS. COULD IT BE THE CITY COUNCIL AND
MANAGEMENT THAT FOCUS ON DOWNTOWN ?
Mae
I am not surprised by this. It is pretty obvious that the publisher of the PT has allowed the paper to decline to nothing more than a 3 section rag. It's time LB gets a real newspaper.
Daniel
I am finally done. I cancelled for a couple years then thinking I was missing out on local news resubscribed. Since there really is no real reporting of local news I am done for good. Grew up with the IPT, how sad to see it bleed out.
James Dean
Newspapers are history and the unions are right behind them
Don
Doug you are the best the paper will not be worth reading. Without you. Thanks for everything.
Paul
Nothing wrong with the Downtown focus. However, the City Council refuses to see social reality. Rae Gablic boasted that she is,'Pals' with the homeless at her 7/11 store. Good for her, but most shoppers don't care for that kind of interaction. There is more to Downtown than the buildings, and that is what they refuse to face. Both advocates for the disadvantaged and the business community want them off the streets, but that is not happening. Build it and they will come. Question is, what do you want to build and who do you want there. Inconsistent policy decisions galore are the norm. So the PT being in the grasp of our leadership is also adrift along with them.
Angel
Hey PAUL, you are entitled to your distorted opinions! Build what with what? The City of L.B. "Bank" is empty! For record, Rae has accomplished more for our district than any previous council representatives! I have lived here for 30+ years so I know!
Ginny Gonzales
I feel sorry for the PT employees and their families who will suffer as a result of this. But face it, the PT is the worst paper under the sun. If the product ain't worth it, the the company will die.
Stan
I grew up in Long Beach in the '40s and '50s. The PT was our staple diet. It printed my first ever Letter to the Editor, which spawned a near-industry of the things over the years; trying to be a good citizen as I was, and am. Sorry to hear of its last-legs standing. But as long as The People still have access to their local news, and ability to comment on the passing scene, the spirit of community will remain; just in different form. Still; a cause for a pause of sadness at the news. Thanks for the memories, PT.
LB Lover
RIP PT - I too remember the days when the IPT was a good paper - the city's news delivered twice a day, two editions. And yes, print news is having problems everywhere but it seems like the loss of the PT - beginning with giving up its building - had more to do with how the city collectively viewed itself than it did with technology. When half the population doesn't read English or is illiterate, a hometown newspaper doesn't stand a chance.



And, completely agree that the focus on downtown is stupid at this point. Its glory years are long gone.



Also agree Los Altos needs protection, it's still lovely but who knows how long that will last. The only enclaves of civil life will be Naples and Belmont Shore - unless those property values diminish as all the gang-banging cholos find a way to infiltrate and do to those areas what they've done to their own 'hoods. And we can be sure the Daily Breeze staff won't give a darn about reporting on any of that - too far away.
Ryan ZumMallen
The decisions made by MediaNews over the past few years have been simply disgraceful.
Mike Ruehle
Media News Group news model doesn't work for a couple reasons. First, the quality of their product has suffered. Articles are flash reports with little in the way of facts or accurate reporting. Often, there are more remedial questions than facts. Who, what, when, where and how are frequently missing from its articles.



Second, people have lost faith the Press Telegram can provide unbiased reporting. As the PT becomes smaller, reporting has become more biased towards advertisers they are forced to rely upon, especially the City of Long Beach. The PT and Grunion Gazette have both become PR magazines for the City of Long Beach and their advertizers. Both publish news about their advertizers which is slanted in the most favorable light. People observe this noticeable change and rely less upon the PT and Gazette for their news.



Third, the recent decision to switch on-line article commenting from topix to facebook lost the Media News Group significant readership. The reason is because most commenting is done by people from their work computer and most company firewalls block the use of facebook on its company computers. This change in commenting, while cheaper, lost many, many PT on-line viewers who now go elsewhere to comment on the news.



Fourth, the News Media Group papers have switched their product from community news to the highly competitive regional news market, further driving avid community readership away. The News Media Group forced its readership to the [a local news outlet], LBPost, GreaterLongBeach and Patch in search of community news. Once there, these same readers discovered they could get most of their information from these smaller medias and no longer need the PT.



Fifth, the News Media Groups decision to censor people like myself from commenting on-line to their articles lost them further readership and credibility as a representative of fair and impartial news. While their editors may not like my comments because it embarasses their major advertizers, those same comments attracted other commentors to the PT, either as supporters or opponents. By censoring community activism, the PT and Grunion Gazette have become very dull products.
LB Lover
Also agree with the person who said Rae G bragging about being friends w/ the homeless who visit her 7-11 is distorted. Come to think of it, owning a 7-11 is distorted - what do people go into buy? Lottery tickets, rolling papers, beer, diapers and cheap unhealthy food. So the councilwoman has many strikes against her in my book.
LB Deserves Better
For years now many of my friends and neighbors have ONLY subscribed to the LBPT because of the LOCAL SPORTS coverage.

Recently, the PT has covered the minor division (DIII, DIV) schools (in Downey, Cerritos, etc.) and compared them to the POWER HOUSE MOORE LEAGUE! The Daily Breeze sends sports writers to its area high school games, even the minot ones like water polo, badminton,cheer competitions, etc. . . . and Dan Albanio (OC Register) is at more high school events that the LBPT.

This past week PT Sports has been publishing Dream Team Selections . . . obviously WITHOUT ANY UNDERSTANDING or FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of the talent of the minor school athletes it published! I think its great to put kids names in the newspaper . . . but even they no the Dream Team is a FARCE and and that they couldn't compete with most athletes in Long Beach!

(I recently called the PT sports department and asked for circulation numbers in those areas AND they HAD NO CLUE!!! In other words, the PT sports department spends time, money and ink writing about areas where they have very little or NO COVERAGE! P.S. I also had a media kit sent to me, after asking VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS about coverage in different communities . . . yep, you guessed it, they don't have the numbers in the media kit either . . . I called back for the circulation numbers and I was told, "I can't believe you serious about wanting the numbers!" ???????? . . . but they are willing to take my advertising check.)


It is for reasons like the above that many have been calling the PT a RAG! The PT had Long Beach, one of the 5 largest cities in California, in the palm or their hand . . . but its inability to understand consumer wants and needs (called marketing for anyone with a college degree) has caused its demise!

Many years ago, I subscribed to both the Independent -the morning addition - a the afternoon Press-Telegram. I understood why they combined the papers as TV news and as subscriptions declined . . . but there was still local coverage for Long Beach (community events, politics, etc., etc.)

It's too bad to see them go out of business . . . AND they will be GONE . . . it's only a matter of time!
Bob
No Doug, No Press Telegram . Great work Union
Neena @ Signal Tribune
Working at/for a daily is a very difficult and stressful position to be in (I did it for just over a year about 12 years ago)- yet I do believe that printed news is still extremely important.

We work very hard at the Signal Tribune to give our readers the best we can in a weekly format.

Covering Bixby Knolls, California Heights, Wrigley Heights and all of Signal Hill is NOT an easy job -nevertheless we LOVE what we do and appreciate our readers and advertisers. Hello to Allison at the Post xo - Neena
PT subscriber
Press telegram is doing what is necessary to survive in a dramatic change busines where eventually the print media will be reduced to editorial from news reporting. The employees and unions need to bring ideas to the table to save the company not just complaints and self interest or they will all be out of a job.
Paul
By,'her'711, I met the one that she frequents, as per her statements on the Council. Angle, fine keeping the airplanes away, ribbon cuttings, etc, but when you trash other neighborhoods by some of your votes, that is not right and very non thinking. I don't think she goes there to by beer.:)
Diane
I have loved the Press Telegram for years, but I agree that it is too focused on downtown. Years ago I told a city counsel man that I thought the powers that be in the city thought the boundaries were the harbor then east down 7th St. (going south to the international line) to Bellflower Blvd north to Carson St with a line down Atlantic Ave to Poly HS and threads extending to St Marys and Memorial Hospitals and a second thread extending from Bellflower Blvd up Wardlow Rd to the airport. I was told I was wrong the boundary was 3rd St. Unfortunately that appears to be the position of the PT. Why does anyone want to read only about Poly, the harbor, the airport and a downtown where the shopping is anchored by WALMART? What's wrong with re-establishing even with volunteer writers neighborhood desks that cover the little activities that are important to residents, the ombudsman position and my favorite, "what's that siren" (okay I'm weird). I hope the Press Telegram survives but it can only do so as an area paper. How about going to an afternoon edition?
KeithH
Mike, I think some of your ire (and some of the other posters here) is misplaced. Let's focus on the issue of management/ownership at the PT and their poor decisions, but let's also be sure to delineate between management/owners and the writers and photographers at the PT (those being impacted by these cuts). These reporters and photographers are some of the most talented, dedicated and hard-working folks around, who all love LB and take their roles in informing the community very seriously. Each of the points you raise reflect solely on the poor business decisions made by management.
And, just so you know, I am a freelance reporter that started my career as a PT reporter (and have written at one time or another for nearly all the other news outlets in LB).
First, journalists are not magical creatures that can create silk out of sack cloth. It takes time to write an article with depth and perspective. It takes time to get people to call you back with details or to root out documents, analyze and then put this together into an article. When management slashes staffing and yet continues to demand more articles per day from the diminishing number of reporters, what do you think happens? Reporters are forced to turn in stories that they themselves will readily admit are not Pulitzer quality, not from a lack of professionalism or desire to do so, but from a simple matter of being forced into a production schedule by management that is unrealistic.
Think about this, after 13 years of cuts by MediaNews the PT has ten reporters, five photographers and six sports writers to cover a major metropolitan area of more than 500,000 people. And now they will lose the sports writers and photogs.
Second, your claim of biased reporting is hogwash. Reporters at the PT are not told how to write or what to write, and certainly not regarding advertisers. The PT management, for all its flaws, has always maintained a very stringent and impermeable wall between advertising and the news room. Let's not generalize about the motives of the PT reporters. If you want to talk specific examples, let's do that. But keep in mind that just because an article doesn't support a certain viewpoint, doesn't mean it's biased.
Third, while I agree to some degree with your point about commenting, this was again a management decision. However, there was something of a valid point behind their logic. Anonymous commenting allowed a lot of disturbed people to very often post hateful, unconstructive and at times downright racist commentary. This isn't directed at community voices, like yourself, that just want to dialogue on their various opinions. I am referring to some really vile stuff, most of which almost always originated from outside the community. While a lot of this bile was taken down, with staff time being so limited, it became unfeasible in many cases to manually remove all of this crap (to the point where a lot of articles simply had the comments turned off.) I believe the thinking was that shifting to facebook was a way to tie one person to a comment, in an effort to discourage these disturbed people from posting their bile anonymously. Also, this is not unusual in the industry. Many papers have moved away from anonymous posting of comments for similar reasons.
Fourth, MediaNews has not, as a policy, shifted to a regional news market focus. I can understand someone perceiving this, but again, it goes to management/owner decisions. Because the PT staff has been slashed so severely, the management has had to rely more and more on material produced by AP, City News Service and sister papers such as the Daily Breeze and the LA Daily News to fill pages. These outlets do not focus on Long Beach, per se, so this material in the paper gives the impression that the paper is focusing on outside-of-the-community issues (BTW:bylines from reporters are all listed as 'staff writers' by management fiat, so you can't tell if it is a PT writer or a writer from a sister paper). Internally, PT reporters have been encouraged for years to focus more and more on the local community. But the number of articles from outside sources appearing in the paper has grown simply because there is not enough PT staff to adequately fill the paper with just community articles.
Fifth, I'm not sure of what you are talking about as far as the PT censoring you, as you gave no examples. However, though your comments are often long and voluminous, Mike, I have never read anything you have written in a comment that would rise to the PT's threshold for removal. As I pointed out, there are time when the PT shuts off commenting on articles--when these outside-the-community comments turn hateful and ugly. In addition, due to a lack of any kind of investment by the company in up-to-date technology, the PT computer systems are deplorable, both behind the scenes and on the viewer end. I have heard many stories of people posting comments that disappear, never appear, or appear hours and hours later. Hell, it has happened to me on numerous occasions. These are technology issues that have nothing to do with any perceived effort to silence community voices.
And again, the advertising side has zero input at the PT into what happens on the news room side. I would bet that nine out of ten PT reporters could not name a single advertiser in the paper. Advertising simply does not play into the reporters' work in any way. That is company policy and it is enforced quite stringently. In my time at the PT, I can think of one time when an advertiser had any input on something I wrote, and in that one case, it was because the headline on the article was really, really wrong. The advertiser complained and the paper apologized and corrected. But this would have happened (and did several times) even if the company in question was not an advertiser.
I would only say this regarding your accusation of censorship: the PT lists the phone number for the general manager of the paper right on its website. If you think you are being censored, pick up the phone and call the GM, Sue Schmitt. You will be surprised to find that she does not condone what you are alleging (nor does anyone at the PT) and I am sure she will go out of her way to correct any perceived problem.
The bottom line, Mike, is rage rage against the machine, but remember that the rank and file workers at the paper are doing their 110 percent best under the extremely stressful circumstances to provide the information you and others want. The problem remains, as it has since 1997 when the paper was sold: poor business decisions by MediaNews.
Thinking Out Loud
Maybe if all the restaurants, bars, and other establishments that Doug Krikorian name drops each week actually PAID FOR ADVERTISING, rather than getting it for free, the PT would be in better financial shape.
Mae
I agree with Mike Ruhle. The PT has been nothing more than a rubber stamp for bad City management, shading over real issues of police abuse and leaving out important factual information that could possibly leave its pocket-fillers red faced. It has become nothing more than a "feel good" paper, celebrating the fractured diversity of this once fabulous town.

Real news? How about the blight of once nice neighborhoods turning into Tijuana ghettos. Real news? The rape and destruction of a once bountiful and thriving downtown, which the city allowed to be raised for bourgeois dining, overpriced housing that remains empty and a troublemakers' haven.
And those little vanity rags like the Bunion Gazette do no better. One great civic debacle of late? The 2nd Street repaving that tore a community and it's businesses into shreds for a month or more. How the PT let such a ridiculous mismanagement and misdirection of badly needed road improvement funds go unheeded is still beyond me.

I, too, grew up with the IPT and PT - as a child, reading pages about energy issues, middle east uprisings and starvation in Africa. For some time now, issues like these are likely to get a 4 paragraph column, while social pages and articles about PT advertisers get half-pages.

We need to bring back Long Beach. I think, as in history, a community is built upon it's citizens overall awareness of what is actually happening in the neighborhoods and downtown. Two paragraph gloss-overs has not been the way to do it. We shouldn't have to subscribe to LA Times or NY Times for regional and international news. It should all be right there in our own paper.
Artie
I've been a P.T. subscriber since the 1950's. Slowly but surely it has become a paper of little substance. Little world news, little business news, few in depth stories. I was looking for a new car this month and had to buy both the L.A. Times and O.C. Register to find auto ads. Our local dealers eschew the P.T. as do many other local advertisers. Frankly, the P.T. has been reduced to a small town local newspaper. Our city has a population of about one-half million; we deserve more than the inadequate rag the P.T. has become. I'll be switching my subscription to the Times or Register. May the Press Telegram RIP.



Mike Ruehle
Keith, you sound waaay too defensive. In case you can't tell, my middle finger is pointed straight at the editors and management not necessarily the worker bees.



Don't give me that hogcrap about the PT being unbiased. I've had reporters tell me three times that Foster or DeLong called their editor and killed their story. Furthermore, if they are so unbiased, why did the PT editors publish my picture on the front page of a Sunday edition with a news story about me getting a DUI 2-years prior to the article. How was my 2-year old DUI Sunday front page news, yet a drunken Fire Department Captain who mows down a bicyclist isn't even reported until after the LA Times publishes the story a week later? Take a look at who wrote the story about my DUI and the close relationship he has with Belmont Shore bar owners I was publicly critisizing for not controlling their patrons. Not biased. Hogwash.



I am personally censored from the PT and GG. I can show you multiple emails I've sent to the reporters who forwarded me to the IT people who refused to respond to me. In each case, I copied the editor. It wasn't because I was an anonymous commentor. I commented using Mike Ruehle. It was because I was questioning the conduct of certain influential people. That's no different than this comment board which also censored me for several weeks not long before Allison came aboard as editor. Furthermore, the LBPost allowed someone else to post hateful comments using my name which facilitated their attempts to discredit me. Ryan knows about it. If not, I can forward you the emails.



Whodunit
Hey KeithH:

When was the last time you were a staff member at the PT?
Whodunit
Never mind. Found it.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/keith-higginbotham/12/230/53b

KeithH is a Union man with a clear agenda who hasn't worked at the Long Beach paper in more than a decade.
KeithH
So, Whodunit, instead of talking about the topic or even the discussion I was having with Mike, you used your Jedi Google powers to find something that I have openly posted on the Internet. Bravo. You are a budding investigative blogger if I ever met one. And, yes, I proudly served as a union steward and a union rep (both past tense) at the PT. Would any one that read my post think otherwise? Here's another scoop for you: I remain close with nearly all the PT news staff to this day and my wife works there. Gosh, it sucks to be an armchair journalist when the internet doesn't tell you everything.
Whodunit
KeithH:

You deserted the PT a decade ago. A wise decision, in hindsight. Now here you are yelling about its virtues, making sure everyone knows how wonderful you think it is.

You say your wife still works there. You love your wife, right?

Stop pumping up her newspaper, and tell her to get another job.
Whodunit
To reiterate since my last message hasn't shown up yet:

KeithH, you love your wife? Stop using her to get inside information so you can dominate the lbpost chats on the PT. Urge her to seek new employment.
Inkgirl
As somebody who currently works for MediaNews Group paper, please have some sympathy for these people. They're probaly beaten down, and doing what they can to make it through the day. It's difficult to create a good product when your staff has been stripped. You have no resources. Dean Singleton wants to keep his masthead count high. So he won't close a paper. However, he's no longer in charge. The banks are. There are several things in play here. If people bought newspapers, or read print material anymore, that would help. People who work at MediaNews publications are angry and frustrated they can't do their jobs well. Have some heart.
Whodunit
Inkgirl:

Every single person who remained at the Long Beach paper after the layoffs three years ago knew they were playing Russian Roulette with their careers.

This week's news shocked no one.
Allison E., editor
As a reminder, the Long Beach Post does not approve comments 24-7. Additionally, comments are not approved as frequently on weekends as they are on weekdays. Please expect a bit of lag time on weekends, especially Saturday nights.

Thank you for your continued readership and for participating in the public discussions by commenting. We appreciate your patience relative to comments being approved on the weekends.
Pigeon
OK, fine. It is hard enough now to get info that is needed about the neighborhood before another dozen liquor licenses are approved. What's the online blog that is going to cover it in the future?
Bill Orton
Truly discouraging news. Truly discouraging.
Dennis
Kris Hanson, "It's outrageous to do this. You're going to have photographers and sports writers covering Long Beach from Torrance."



Every heard of the internet Hanson? Digital photography that can email pictures from one place to the next? Email that can send a story? Per Hanson's logic the Los Angeles Times, in Los Angeles, shouldn't be able to cover the Angels or Ducks in Anaheim or take pictures of the Rose Parade in Pasadena.



The P-T is not much different than every other daily across the country that has been cutting staff and losing subscribers and advertisers for well over a decade. Unions will blame ownership and ownership will blame unions but ultimately both failed to adapt throughout the print media to the on-line access to news, stories and yes sports.



Unfortunately most of the quality reporters and editors spent too much time in journalism classes and not enough in business classes in college and as a group lack entrepreneurial instincts that could have served them well to establish quality competition for their former employers.



Take the group of sportswriters listed in this article, if they were to create their own local on-line sports page they could own the market. But then according to Hanson they would only be able to cover sports in Long Beach if that is were they locate.
El Matador
What about the Sports Guys over at the Gazette? They cover Long Beach Sports but they still need to partner with the Gazettes, it just can't be done that easily.
Evon
KeithH.

Your response was spot on. Thanks.
RIP PT
Don't know how long the sportswriters at the P-T would last as a stand-alone website. The amount of misspellings in their stories (for teams with printed rosters, even) and misidentifying players in photos (check out their photo Saturday of the misidentified Los Alamitos pitcher) tells me it's not just the management at the P-T who have given up on basic sports journalism.
RIP PT
Check out today's (Wednesday's) sports page -- PT's got a picture of "Casey" DeJong, a junior and arguably the top pitching prospect in the city. Problem is, his name is Chase. Does anyone at the PT know local sports, or actually give a darn?
Disgusted
KeithH, your comments could not be more accurate. I'm disgusted to see people who have no relationship nor interest in the Greater Long Beach Area making decisions on anything PT related. These decision makers (Singleton, Hamilton, Lindus) don't care about Long Beach nor do they care about the employees (editorial, advertising, etc) that have poured their heart in to making the PT a quality publication. It's a sad time for the employees of PT and the community. It didn't have to be this way.
Larry
I could be wrong, but I think "Disgusted" just MIGHT have worked at the PT at some point.
John B. Greet
Never having once worked in the daily print news business (well, except to deliver a *lot* of papers when I was a kid...back when kids were still allowed to do such things) I can only imagine there are many aspects of the PT's recent publishing decisions that are either not known or not fully appreciated by many of us who are not insiders. To me these changes seem inevitable and, as Dennis alluded, are actually becoming a fairly common trend nationwide. It would seem that the internet was the game changer for the print news media, just as it has been for so many other aspects of our lives. People no longer have to rely on their morning paper for local, regional, national or international news. A rapidly growing number of news consumers now receive the latest up-to-the-minute information they are seeking, about almost any topic, person, or event, real-time, right on their PC's, laptops, and notebooks at their homes or offices, and on their smart phones as they travel about in their daily lives. Advertisers seem to be recognizing this truth as well and are shifting their business to more internet-based formats. How can the daily print media *possibly* compete? In the midst of a foundering economy, they are losing circulation and advertisers at the very same time. Just as the minstrels and town criers eventually faded away in prior centuries, the daily print media's business model is quickly becoming entirely obsolete today. Saddest for me, I think, is seeing this long, drawn-out, painful stripping down of a once noble periodical whose printing presses I can fondly remember watching in action through the windows at 6th and Pine. I would much rather the PT would just close completely and be done with it. Go out with some dignity still intact. This slow, wasting away is just so sad to watch.
Robert
Just close the PT for good. I prefer to read the Long Beach Post anyday!
Better Than U
Sorry to hear the PT staffers are getting it from their bosses.
Laurence B. Goodhue
...Certainly does not bode well for
the City or its people.

FYI:Check out Calendat section of
LA Times--front page-either
Tuesday-or Monday--excellent
article/review about O-Shea-
former publisher LA Times-sent
in my Chicago Tribune to down
size the Los Angeles Times--
deals with the run up to and
post sale to the Windy City
folks/including Sam Zell--and
subsequent saga....
Simpleton
Geez, do you people read anything other than the Press Telegram? Like the Wall Street Journal for instance?

This isn't a Press Telegram or Media News Group problem - its a publishing problem. Prior to the internet, newspapers didn't get much of their revenue from the quarters we dropped in their machines (those covered, or partly offset, distribution costs). Most of their revenue came from selling ads to retailers and individuals.

In 1985, if you wanted to move an antique stove, a car, a house, or an apartment in Long Beach, you'd buy a classified ad from the PT or the Grunion.

Today, you go to Craigslist or some other site that specializes in antique stoves. Craigslist is free. Hard to compete with free. Same for retailers (this is the reason they want your e-mail address).

In the last couple of years, the Denver Post and Seattle Post Intelligencer have quit, and dozens of major papers have gone BK (OC Register, LA Times and Chicago Trib, Chicago Sun Times). Same goes for magazines.

The old publishing model was write interesting news (at a cost) to get subscribers so you could sell ads at higher prices (revenues).

Revenues continue to shrink, so news coverage is worse and worse. These are dying businesses, and they were already dying before the recession.

Too bad because I still like the feeling of paper and ink in my hands. I expect most paper newspapers will be gone within the next decade or so.
lb reader
Allison,

You have so many facts wrong.

1. Steven Georges has worked for the PT for almost 25 years,

2. Rose Fitzpatrick was the night city editor

3. The 70 people laid off include the PT and vacant positions that are not going to be filled

4. The employees did not reapply for their jobs three weeks ago, it was 6 weeks ago
Future of Papered News
LB Post printed version. Like what you see? The King is dead! Long live the King!
Allison E., editor
All of the information was provided to me by the PT's Kristopher Hanson, which is cited in the post. He is a union steward for the union representing all PT employees.
Bob
So long PT, hello Wall Street Journal, Beachcomber and Gazette. No Doug, no PT. Is it true PT will move office to Gazatte in the Shore ?
GhettoBird?
Ha, ghetto bird? What is that exactly?
RIP Press Telegram
Long Beach once was know for its amazing reporting of local sports . . . now we read about Downey, Cerritos, Los Alamitos, etc., as much or more than Long Beach schools . . . and what puzzles me is that there is VERY limited distribution in those cities!

Inside, the PT features many less than interesting "local" articles . . . and the interns (notice I didn't wirte "movie critics?") review films with limited distribution (and even smaller audiences) outside Long Bach because someone in the editors office must think it's "cool" to use 'ink on newsprint' describing stuff no one really cares about. But, as anyone can see, local theaters have stipped advertising because they are aware the PT is losing subscribership and distribution!

I just renewed my PT subscription for another 52 weeks but sent a note saying this is the last time I will subscribe . . . my kids will finish high school next June and the only reason I take the PT is hoping to see one of the names of their friends on the sports page!

RIP Press Telegram!

P.S. Those who respond by implying they are 'PTer's' would do better by sevicing the "wants and needs" of the Long Beach readership rather than being 'butt-hurt' for an incorrect statement on the net!
Panglonymous
Is Shirley Wild a Petie-paid employee, or is she funded by some foundation-to-enhance-the-status-quo spawned by ol' Skip the Keesal et al?
LB Lifer
If you've read any of Kris Hanson's puff pieces on the Port, you should know better to believe his "facts". I'll feel bad for Frank Burlison as he is a hard worker and really goes out and does his work. Won't feel the same for Doug E Krikorian who has lived off his Herald Exam credentials for years and does zero research, writing either about his bar buddies (which interests no one) or about some local athlete if someone drops the story in his lap while freeloading at a bar or restaurant.
Uh, Allison?
Never a smart choice to get your main information from Union stewards. Everything they do drips with agenda.
Ann W
I want to cry! I've started every day for the last 40 years with coffee and my PT. The quality of the paper has sunk so low that I don't see why they even bother to print it.The shoddy way the newspaper employees have been treated is deplorable.Is there no one out there who values the contributions of a good strong local newspaper? Who's going to do that investigative and indepth reporting? I can't see any entity that can fill the role of a vibrant newspaper. This is a sad time for all newspaper lovers!

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