Thursday, February 9, 2012

UPDATE: Reduced Council Meetings Motion Pulled From Agenda
by Keith Higginbotham | City Beat | 07.13.10 | 
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UPDATE 3:00pm |
The motion to consider reducing the number of times that the Long Beach City Council meets per month has been withdrawn from tonight's agenda, according to an e-mail notice from the Office of City Clerk Larry Herrera.

Joseph Toney, Administrative Assistant to 3rd District Councilmember Gary DeLong, told the LBPOST.com this afternoon that currently there is no indication that the motion will resurface at a later date. DeLong introduced the motion about one week ago. Toney said he was not given a reason as to why the motion was
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7:00am | The City Council tonight will consider a move to reduce the number of monthly public Council meetings. If passed, the move will also reduce the public's input and oversight of City Council actions, move even more of the city legislative process behind closed doors, and shift Long Beach into a political spectrum more aligned with much smaller cities.
  
As proposed by Councilmembers Robert Garcia, Suja Lowenthal and Gary DeLong, the motion, if passed, would reduce the number of monthly Council meetings to two per month. The Council currently meets three times a month--every Tuesday at 5 p.m. except for the last Tuesday of the month.
  
The current proposal seeks to limit the Council meetings to the first and third Tuesday of each month.
  
The three Councilmembers that proposed the cut said that the reduced meeting schedule would save money, allow Councilmembers more time to be in their communities, and provide more hours when Councilmembers can be reached by their constituents.
  
Councilmember Gerrie Schipske has expressed vehement opposition to the proposal, warning that "Two meetings a month will mean more decisions get made behind the scenes and public involvement will be squashed because after all 'we have a very full agenda with only meeting two times a month...so hurry along.' The people of our city are struggling financially and what is being proposed is an insult to every resident who would gladly change places with nine city councilmembers and work full time."
  
Councilmember Schipske may have a point.
  
In fact, most of the arguments for cutting an additional meeting don't seem to hold up to scrutiny.
  
Councilmembers Garcia and DeLong post their schedules online and neither seems to be drowning in meetings with constituents after 5 p.m. on any day of the week. Their schedules for the month of June reveal that neither listed any evening meetings with individual constituents on any days of the week beyond such things as neighborhood association meetings, speaking engagements, community events or function dinners.
  
Councilmember Lowenthal does not publish her calendar.
  
Meetings with neighborhood associations and such no doubt entail mixing with constituents, however, the point is that two of the three arguments put forth by the proponents of the motion imply that there is a great demand and need to free up that one Tuesday a month to expand their constituent outreach.
  
Councilmember Garcia's and Delong's calenders do not support this. In fact, their calendars suggest that they have ample time on non-Council meeting days to hold additional meetings with their constituents.
  
The argument for creating more available time for constituents to reach the Councilmembers also does not make sense when you consider that the average citizen would not typically be able to get hold of Councilmembers in the evening hours anyway. Keep in mind that Council meetings are held at 5 p.m., when most City Hall offices, including those of the Councilmembers, are not open.
  
In other words, the Councilmembers proposing the cuts are currently not meeting with individual constituents on other days of the week during the time the Council meetings are held, there appears to be no additional demand to do so and there is no way for the public to reach out to them during the normal Council meeting time even if they were free.   
  
As additional justification for this move, the Garcia, Lowenthal and DeLong motion points to a 2003 finding by city staff that moving to a twice-monthly council schedule would save $3,120 a month, or just over $37,000 a year.
  
However, the 2003 staff report--used at the time to justify reducing the number of council meetings from four a month to the current three a month and attached to the current proposal--did not itemize how the $3,120 savings would be achieved.
  
The proposal before the current Council on Tuesday also does not specify how the savings would be achieved--it merely reiterates the 2003 city staff findings and does not include the 2003 report's separate attachments that did break down how the $3,120 amount was deduced.
  
However, according to City Clerk Larry Herrera who helped put the 2003 report together, the estimate of $3,120 in savings per cut Council meeting is no longer valid because the way that City Council meetings are handled is now much different than it was in 2003. For example, staff from his office no longer use overtime to cover their required attendance at the meetings. And, other than a few technical staff members to run equipment, the remainder of the city employees required to be at each Council meeting are all salaried employees like the City Manager or City Attorney and do not collect overtime.
  
However, Herrera added that the city does pay about $1,000 per meeting for an interpreter service to simulcast the Council's live TV and online broadcast in Spanish.
  
A tangential argument made about reducing the number of Council meetings is that, if passed, the reduced schedule would only slightly increase the length of the two meetings per month.
  
However, the past 12 City Council meetings consumed just under 45 hours and 40 minutes, an average of nearly 3 hours and 50 minutes per meeting, or, 11 hours and 30 minutes per month for three meetings. Even acknowledging that some perfunctory business conducted during the meetings would not have to be repeated if the third meetings' business were moved into the remaining two meetings, a switch to a twice-monthly schedule would still require at least an additional hour and a half per meeting--meaning that the two monthly meetings would average around 5 hours and 20 minutes.
  
In addition, a search of city council schedules for all the communities surrounding Long Beach, as well as the California and national cities that bracket Long Beach in population, shows that a twice-monthly council schedule would align Long Beach's legislative process with smaller rather than larger cities.
  
The city councils for the communities surrounding Long Beach all meet twice a month, except for the city of Compton's council, which meets three times a month. However, these cities are all much smaller than Long Beach. These communities include: Artesia, Bellflower, Carson, Cerritos, Cypress, Downey, Hawaiian Gardens, Lakewood, Los Alamitos, Paramount, Seal Beach, and Signal Hill.
  
However, the four largest cities in California--Los Angeles, San Diego, San Jose and San Francisco--all meet at least once a week with the Los Angeles City Council meeting up to three times per week. Fresno, the fifth largest city in the state by population, theoretically meets every week, though they hold their meetings on Thursday and cancel any meeting in a week with a federal holiday. When you add in four seasonal holidays and nine meetings canceled due to summer and winter recesses, on average, the Fresno City Council holds 3.5 meetings per month.
  
Long Beach, which holds three city council meetings a month, is the sixth largest city in the state.
  
The seventh largest California city, Sacramento, also has their city council meet every week, except for two-week summer and winter recesses. The council for city number eight, Oakland, meets three times a month.
  
It is not until you get to city number nine, Santa Ana, with roughly 130,000 less people than Long Beach, that you find a city council in California that meets only twice a week. Number 10, Anaheim, with roughly 135,000 less residents than Long Beach, also has a two-times per month city council schedule.
  
In fact, only eight of the 18 cities nationwide having populations within 100,000 of Long Beach (both above and below), have twice-a-month city council schedules. The other ten have councils with either three times a month or every week schedules.
  
Long Beach has often been called "the big city with the small town attitude," but, really, is this the point we have reached in Long Beach? Where the City Council takes this saying literally? Where the City Council actually wants to make Long Beach function like a small town?
  
And all without a single voter's input.
  
The question to ponder is, if you owned a company, would you allow your employees to set their own work schedule?
  
This is exactly the situation the residents of Long Beach find themselves in.
  
Each of the current City Councilmembers were elected fully aware that they would be required to attend City Council meetings three times a month.
  
For her part, Councilmember Schipske has said she will introduce a City Charter amendment that will call for a 50 percent cut in the part-time salaries of all nine Councilmembers and the full-time salary of the mayor if the meeting reduction is passed.
  
"When the council and mayor's salaries were set in 1988, they were set based upon four council meetings a month. Sometime around 2004, the Council reduced the meetings to three and now they want to reduce it to two. So, I am proposing that the voters get to vote on reducing the salaries of the mayor and city council commensurate to the 50 percent reduction in public meetings," said Schipske on her personal blog last week.
  
Voters in Councilmembers Garcia, Lowenthal and DeLong's districts should let their respective Councilmember know before Tuesday's 5 p.m. meeting that their proposal to cut the number of public Council meetings is wrong. A phone call or an email would suffice.
  
Voters in other Council districts should tell their Councilmembers to oppose this myopically bad idea, as well.
  
The job of the City Council is to represent the people. The main public manifestation of this representation is at the City Council meetings. As Council member Schipske said, it is an insult to the residents of Long Beach that anyone on the Council should vote to minimize that representation or their workload.
  
And, if this motion passes, let's hope that voters take note of which Council members voted yes, and remind these elected officials come the next election day that the citizens of Long Beach want Council members that can handle the heat in the kitchen and at least show up to work three times a month.
 

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29 Comments so far.
Mike Ruehle
Why didn't Councilmen Garcia and Delong mention their desire to cut a council meeting when they were campaigning for election in April? Why did they wait until after they were elected to propose a reduction of their REQUIRED interaction with the public?

Erin
Agreed. I feel like I'm being dumped. City Council is saying, 'It's not you, it's mee...' C'mon guys, I thought we were friends! Don't you want to hang out at least three times a month? ...no? ...hello?

LBREZ
I don't see the big deal. So their council meetings go longer on Tuesdays? It will save staff time and they can be out in the community more.

tonka
your argument doesnt hold water. Councilmembers have fulltime jobs - not the ccouncil, which is part time. That wouldnt be on the calendar. Tuesdays are dedicated to council, but being in chamber at the dais actualy isnt the best way to interacct with constituents. I dont think you thought this through well.

40 Year Resident
I've lived in Long Beach for over 40 years and this is NOT the City it once was! Potholes everywhere, a school system in distress, businesses leaving the city (with the exception of council approved marijuana stores), almost daily gang shootings and a city council that wants to cut back on meetings to save money??? When I was growing up we were taught when things got tough we should "roll up our shirt sleeves and work harder!" So why, instead of fewer meetings doesn't the council ask for more time to address the growing problems of the City? P.S. When I first heard that fewer meeting would save the City money, I foolishly thought the council members were offering to reduce their salary like the rest of us must do when our hours are cut!!!!

Annie G.
We elected these councilmembers to vote the voice of their constituents. Clearly this agenda item does not come close to the voice of their constitutents. This is a mockery of their representation of their constituency. Maybe the people of the Second District don't care about the number of council meetings, but I can assure you the constituency of the other districts need their council people to meet every week so that the voice of the people is represented - not the voice of city staff! What a joke this agenda item is!!!

ForLB
We have learned that numerous decisions are already made before they reach the meeting; which truly questions the basic democratic process. Yet, the principal of the matter, despite its effects, is that the opportunity for the public's opinion is being reduced to a level where no voice could be allowed. The limited time frame, and the limited subject matter are processes we had been forced to let go. Now, here is a proposal for yet additional limitation or control of the public, which basically further threatens the existing already limited democratic process in the City. If the City council/mayor will like to reduce $$$ they should look at overall city salaries, and pensions. Elected officials should not be looking at further limiting the public's right to voice opinions if nothing else, for the public record, and this is no matter how the Council/Mayor managed to limit it, and for whatever it is worth!

How
Where do we find councilmember emails at? -Thanks

KeithH
Thanks, as always, for all the comments. Tonka, no offense, but the point is that if these people with full-time jobs want to run for Council seats, then they should be prepared to accept the workload--which included three council meetings per month when they were all elected. If they can't meet the obligations due to their full-time jobs--then step down. If they want to change the rules after they have the job, then let the voters decide. And I would argue that since the live TV- and Internet-broadcast Council meetings are seen by more people than any single public function a Council member could attend on their own, the Council meetings are far and away the best way for the Council members to reach their constituents.

CalHtsJohnny
Less time to do the same business, especially when we are in a financial crisis, makes no sense considering the minimal savings. As far as time with constituents is concerned, I've been an active member of my community for many years. Most of my Councilmembers in that time have been very accessible, the outgoing one exceedingly so. It's long been known that Tuesdays are council nights, and we've had no problem scheduling around them to engage our Councilmembers. And those Councilmembers that regularly engage beyond the normal load of community meetings to participate and volunteer time to local events and public gatherings offer plenty of opportunity to engage those willing to be engaged. And thanks, Keith, for pointing out that normal office hours are outside the Council's scheduled meeting times. In addition, many of us have attended council meetings already that go on far too long to maintain reasonable attention and intelligence. As fatiguing as council meetings can be, we shouldn't build in a guarantee that they will be so.

ForLB
Council members' contact info. could be found at the link below: http://www.longbeach.gov/council/default.asp

KeithH
The Council members' official emails all follow a formula: simply put their district number before longbeach.gov. For example, 1st District Council member Robert Garcia's email is district1@longbeach.gov, Lowenthal's is district2@longbeach.gov, DeLong's is district3@longbeach.gov, and so on. You can also find your Council member and their contact info on the City Council web page at www.longbeach.gov/council/default.asp

Wrigley1986
I support decreasing the number of council meetings, but not for the reasons that have been put forth. The best time for making public input is well-before items get to the Council floor. Right now, those opportunites come when Council Committees, which is usually during the work day - mid-to-late afternoons before the Council Meeting and Town Hall Meetings. I suggest that Committee meetings he held on the Tuesday nights that Council doesn't meet and Town Halls on the last Tuesday of the month. This approach would be much more public-friendly than the current system. Committee meetings and Town Halls are focused on specific concerns and don't require sitting through a long list of council topics that are of lesser interest and hearing some of councilmembers go round and round rehashing their own beliefs rather than the facts for the record.

CalHtsJohnny
Point very well-taken, Wrigley. I think it is worth discussing and could be part of a reasonable compromise.

Dwight K Snider
Perhaps we should take a closer look at the proposal to reduce the number of monthly city council meetings from the current four to two from a perspective the average Long Beach worker can relate to -- the hourly pay rate. It is my understanding the $31,000 part-time annual salary for district city council members is set at 25percent of the Mayor's full time salary. Using the forty-hour work week as a standard and the 25percent rule we arrive at a ten-hour work week for district city council members or two-hours per day. Using simple math -- $31,000 divided by 10 hours per week (52) equals $60 per hour or $120 per day. Remember, each district council member is paid $120 per day for a part-time two hour a day job plus a very generous benefits package.

LB Resident Needing More
If they're asking to cut City Council meetings, we should ask them to cut their PAY CHECKS. As residents we deserve more opportunities to attend meetings that affect our families. Limiting critical decision-making meetings to only twice a month severely impacts the amount of time needed for PUBLIC INPUT/COMMENT. We already get a short amount of time for public commentary! Will they be out in the community more, not likely! CHECK THEIR CALENDARS, and if it's not up...then CALL & ASK why.

Mike Donelon
The item has been withdrawn....good job guys!!

watcher
"The main public manifestation of this representation is at the City Council meetings." This is just false, and it's your major error, and that of all the people so vehemently opposed to this. The Council meeting is in fact the *least* important manifestation, just as voting is the least important aspect of democracy. Lobbying happens by phone and email, and communications going both ways occur informally throughout the week, and at community meetings and events, etc. Too bad you made this statement. It would be less surprising coming from a nonexpert. You're supposed to have city hall down pat. But this statement belies ignorance.

watcher
hey 40 year rez: "instead of fewer meetings doesn't the council ask for more time to address the growing problems of the City? " Hello?! There are MANY MANY ways to serve the city other than council meetings! Council meetings are one of the LEAST effective ways to do so. They are tedious, formal, and largely ceremonial! Giving the Councilmembers an extra day to do OTHER WORK for the city would be GREAT! Everyone who thinks that council meetings are the only or even the main way to serve the city obviously doesnt pay much or any attention to government affairs. CLUE_LESS

tonka
"then they should be prepared to accept the workload--which included three council meetings per month when they were all elected. If they can't meet the obligations due to their full-time jobs--then step down." You misunderstand. It's not about workload - it's about WHERE you are working - on the dais, where you are obligated to go thru a formal ceremonial process, or elsewhere - wherever you think you might do the most good. My point in mentioning FT jobs is that evenings are often dedicated to these jobs and that wouldnt be on the calendar. And as to the below - you're just incorrect. Council meetings provide almost no opportunity to hear from or talk to constituents. Viewing on TV number is very low. Meetings and events are more well attended. If they want to change the rules after they have the job, then let the voters decide. And I would argue that since the live TV- and Internet-broadcast Council meetings are seen by more people than any single public function a Council member could attend on their own, the Council meetings are far and away the best way for the Council members to reach their constituents.

OMG
Wait, wait Mr. Snyder--you forgot about all those little perks our council gets while in office. The get a car or car allowance, insurance both health & I am sure life, they get retirement and can I go on. Let's not forget all those free events they must suffer through--dinners, barbeques, etc all for the cause. In fact, if you think cutting would effect a cure for the problems of this city, then can I as a taxpayer suggest you cut your bar hours in 1/2. That will cure a lot of ills we see on 2nd street these days. Just a thought

Kathy Ryan
Thanks to Gerrie the message got out to the people and the council got the message loud and clear!

Mike in LB
DEMOCRACY SPEAKS: no reason was need to give EVERYONE in LB was PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!

ForLB
Keith, thanks for the opportunity of letting us express our opinions. “watcher” you missed the point, but yes, the City does not seem to practice true democracy. Evidently, and as you indicated, there are significant closed door deals and lobbying that do occur, with no recorded accountability. However, the fact that those arrangements have now become the norm does not make the process a true democracy. Public opinions do matter and by principle those who are elected to serve, should serve according to the public’s interest. In this case, it seems like the public did not want to let go of that very limited right, perhaps it might not even be too effective. Yet, still it is a right to voice their opinions on record, versus behind closed doors.

LB Taxpayer
Anything to discourage public participation! Spend more time in the community?? That's what they said the last time they cut the meetings--just another lie. Next thing you know they will be doubling their salaries. Since they limit public comment--when will they be limiting the endless rhetoric of the Council Members? If they want to save $$, there are many other ways this City wastes our hard-earned taxpayer dollars that could be looked into for savings. They should start with eliminating the full-time paramedic on duty for each Council meeting. There is a large fire station within walking distance.

CHARLIE
GOOD - It never should have been on the agenda anyway shape or form in the first place If any City Council person can't meet once a week - then let them resign!

Diana Lejins
Kudos to Gerrie Schipske for her stance on this one!

Disappointed in Garcia
I really like Robert Garcia. I beleive he offers a much needed perspective to the Council. I am disappointed when he alligns himself with these self-serving politicians who make speeches and congratulate themselves and their buddies. Can't he see how this will raise the public's scrutiny over the questionable members of city hall? Garcia, DISTANCE YOURSELF! You are much better than that.

Robert is Not Genuine
Today Robert "admitted to being wrong". What a big man. For years he supported George Bush and his war mongering policy. Today, he panders to the Republican or at best conservadems. We can't afford to have someone who is wrong so often. Especially since he represents some underrepresented groups. We already had corrupt representation in the past. He and Suja are a HUGE Disappointment. I look forward to the next election, where they quick fall from Grace will be evident.

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