Poll: Support For Same-Sex Marriage In Long Beach Grows
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- By Ryan ZumMallen
- | Wednesday, 13 October 2010 08:46
1:30pm | Long Beach voters support of allowing gay couples to marry has increased since the passage of Proposition 8 in 2008 according to our new LBPOST.com/Probolsky Research poll among likely Long Beach voters. The poll found that 57.8% of likely Long Beach voters would legalize same-sex marriage and 32.3% oppose with 6.5% undecided.
Back in 2008, California voters narrowly passed Proposition 8 which provides that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. In that vote, however, Long Beach voters differed from statewide voters when 52.45% opposed Proposition 8 (47.55% were in favor). According to our poll, the amount of Long Beach voters who oppose same-sex marriage today (32.3%) is lower than the 47.55% of voters who supported Proposition 8 (thereby opposing same-sex marriages).
Areas of the city that were most in favor of same-sex marriage in 2008 were Downtown, Alamitos Beach and Belmont Shore.
“Long Beach supported same-sex marriages by opposing Proposition 8 in 2008,” explained Adam Probolsky, poll director and Chairman and CEO of Probolsky Research. “Two years later, our poll indicates Long Beach voters are still very supportive – especially among female, Democratic, decline to state and younger voters – and that opposition to same-sex marriage has actually decreased since 2008,” continued Probolsky.
Our poll on same-sex marriage also found:
- More women feel gay couples should be allowed to legally marry (64.5%) than men (50.3%).
- 70.4% of Democratic voters and 68.9% of decline to state voters feel that gay couples should be allowed to marry, contrasting with 54.1% of Republican voters who feel they should not.
- More of those aged 18-34 feel that gay couples should be allowed to marry (66.7%) than those aged 35-54 (56.9%) and 65+ (46.5%).
Long Beach is home to a large lesbian and gay community. The city hosts an annual Gay Pride Parade & Festival, has an active Gay & Lesbian Center, and dozens of LGBT social service and non-profits.
Long Beach also has two openly gay members of the City Council and has approved a resolution to support the effort to overturn Proposition 8. A federal judge ruled that it is unconstitutional in August, and his ruling is being appealed and will be heard by a three-member appellate court panel in December.
The City Council also approved an Equal Benefits Ordinance last year that requires the City to do business with companies that provide identical benefits to same-sex partners as it does traditional marriage partners.
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LBPOST.com is a daily, online media publication providing news, politics, business, life and sports coverage on issues impacting our city. Newport Beach-based Probolsky Research specializes in opinion research, with government, corporate and political practice areas. The poll was conducted October 6 – October 7, 2010 with 325 likely Long Beach voters with a +/- 5.4 margin of error. Likely November 2010 Long Beach voters included those who voted in any of the November 2008, May 2009, June 2010 elections and voted at least in three of the November 2006, February 2008, June 2008, November 2008, May 2009 and June 2010 elections or if they registered after February 2008 and voted in any of the June 2008, May 2009, and June 2010 elections or registered after November 2008 and voted in either the May 2009 or June 2010 elections or registered after June 2010.
In case you missed it, we dont live in a theocracy. In this country, the government is prohibited from establishing religion or favoring one over the other.
That means that justifying the ban on gay marriage by citing "god" has ZERO legal merit; in fact, it makes invalid your entire position. That's why prop 8 was thrown out in court; the proponents of it couldnt give a single justification besides religion, which has no legal standing in this country.
Wanna live in a theocracy? Move to Iran!
By the way, when you wrote, "The gay and lesbian community should have the same rights as any married couple. This country grants them that freedom." that is patently false. Domestic partnerships dont carry the same rights and privileges as marriage - taxes, visitation, transfer to other states, immigration rights, and on and on have a different and LESSER status with DP's than with marriage.
Finally: You are on the wrong side of history. One day, your position will seem as dated and silly as those who oppose interracial marriage do now. Buh-bye!
1) California already voted to define marriage. Since voting doesn't matter then, it doesn't matter now.
2) Long Beach is the second most gay city next to San Fran. This "poll" doesn't mean much when compared to the rest of California.
Incindentally, I never heard about this "poll". I wonder how many non-pro-gay people didn't hear about it either. You think there might be motive to get all rah-rah by the gay agenda crowd? nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
What married couples receive from the govt are PRIVILEGES!!!
They are not rights.
They were given in order to promote family values, not religion, so the argument that it is all about religion is completely bogus (ie strawman).
A gay couple is not, and never will be, the root of a family (mother and father).
Back to tradition!
What amazes me, is how in the midst of all this new era "enlightenment", the divorce rate has never been higher.
Even look at the music... when was the last time a real LOVE song was made? All the traditional great love songs were in that period you try to paint as "wretched slavery". And those songs were about the deepest of love and commitment.
But I'm sorry, I'm getting in the way by interjecting with reality and objective history, versus your little gay agenda slant. How terrible of me.
He's right about one thing, though: Marriage grants privileges.
I wonder, eagle eye, if you recognize this quote?
"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States"
Here's a bit more help though, instead of labeling everything and everybody that you don't agree with? Perhaps you might want to actually THINK.
It's SO easy to say things like "Prop 8 is hateful". With that logic someone could easily come back and say that being anti-prop 8 is "hateful". After all, you hate traditional couples and people. Oh but lets not think about that eh? It's everyone ELSE that is "filled with hate". Not YOU. After all, YOU are the "good guy" right? Of COURSE that's right! That's GOTTA be right!! No need to think why or how it's right, cause you KNOW it's right!
Anyways, to take ten more seconds to shoot down some more emotion-based lunacy - you are mis-applying the statute you quoted. Following YOUR logic, if everyone were treated with the same exact priveleges, then no one would be getting food stamps, section 8 housing assistance, and rich people wouldn't be taxed at twice the rate as the poor people.
but then again, why bore you with the facts?
Really tho, I don't know what my issue is with using facts. I'm so closed minded that way!!
George Carlin said he prayed to Joe Pesci and he was just as blessed as when he prayed to God.
George did okay and lived pretty long for a guy that did lots of drugs for years. I wonder what Joe Pesci thinks of gay marriage?
The BS tactics of liberal groups is so old... painting everyone ELSE as "haters" or "close-minded", when actually the reverse is true, in that THEY are the haters and close-minded.
I'm willing to give gays the rights and support they need to survive. I also treat them with love and respect, as human beings. I do NOT however, agree with homosexual behavior, nor am I willing to sit idly by whilest they try to adopt children in order to indoctrinate more minds.
It is a crime to place an unsuspecting child in the midst of two adults engaging in homosexuality.
Engaging your "alterior" lifestyle with another adult is one thing... but inflicting it onto a child is horrible.
Basically the poll was done via telephone, but details as to whom was called and where they got the numbers is not given. The assumption would be that it is random.
You and DEECEE have one argument: God says it's wrong to be gay, end of story.
Fortunately, as I said, your way of thinking is the PAST. The future is more tolerant and free than you would care to imagine.
I love the part about how gays want to indoctrinate kids. So gay parents make gay kids? Then how come straight parents dont make straight kids? If they did, there would be no gays. What happened?
Dont bother answering. I dont know why I even ask. You have no ability to think past your own prejudices.
BY the way, this polling was done by a REPUBLICAN PARTY affiliated pollster!
And I'm sorry, you'd like my name? Would you like my address and driver's license number too? Are you challenging me to a fight? Or are you thinking of vandalizing my car or house?
Really don't see the point, other than you being surprised that less and less people give a flying fig about your liberal PC rules anymore.
Trust me, more and more people are fed up with the hypocrisy and double-standards of liberals, so expect to see more and more people calling out the bs.
You'll also enjoy this year's election.
For starters, here is the definition of "statute" - an enactment made by a legislature and expressed in a formal document.
Moving on, the 14th ammendment doesn't mean that everyone is treated exactly the same. Again if this were the case, then a brother and sister could marry, BY YOUR LOGIC.
So now that we've killed that stupid "argument", lets move on to the next. Would two adults engaging a homosexual lifestyle influence an abducted child into believing that their association was "normal", or should be considered an equivalent of a mother and father? That goes without saying - at least to anyone OBJECTIVE.
Lastly, you seem to have this thing about your illogical OPINIONS being facts. I'm going to help you out here (since I feel sorry for you). If you want to establish that someone else is "ignorant" (you know, like not knowing the definition of "statute", and then trying to lecture somebody else who does?), you have to be able to explain HOW that person is being ignorant. Someone is not ignorant, just because you say they are.
Same way that normal people aren't "haters" (or "racists"), just because you say that they are.
And if you don't know, this technique of labeling people whom you don't agree with negatively, is so played out, that almost everyone is learning how to quickly squash it, without batting an eye.
Yeah I know I know, people who disagree with you are all "haters", "racists", "ignorant", "outdated", etc, etc.....
At the end of the day, two men do not a mother and father make. Runteldat!
But the constitution wasn't adopted by a legislature. It was created by a convention. And the 14th amendment was ratified by the states.
In American legalese, "statute" NEVER refers to the constitution.
There are three places law is made:
The Constitution
Statute
Jurisprudential precedent
You also dont know what "marriage means". Marriage is when people BECOME A FAMILY. A brother and sister cannot marry because THEY ARE ALREADY PART OF THE SAME FAMILY.
So yes, you are ignorant
from Canadian Law Dictionary
"An Act of the Legislature adopted pursuant to constitutional authority."
Black's Law Dictionary
"A law enacted by the will of the Legislature - the written will of the Legislature, expressed according to the forms necessary to constitute it the law of the nation."
So Canadian and American law dictionaries establish that a Statute:
1 Is the will of the Legislature.
2 Needs previously estabslihed authority to become a law that People must obey.
Definition of Constitution
Canadian
"The construct of rules that establishes the governmental structure of the state."
Black's
"A charter of government, deriving its whole authority from the governed."
Both dictionaries agree that the constitution is the prior authority permitting the Legislature to enact statute.
You incorrectly identified the 14th amendment as statute. You clearly did not recognize its source. You have no business commenting on fine legal matters because YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
That is, by definition, ignorant.
Unlike gay people, haters will always be haters because they choose to be.