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What If Tesla Decides To Build Their New Car In Downey? by Ryan ZumMallen | Long Beach News | 11.24.09 | | Text Size: +
The deal isn’t done yet. The District Weekly reports that Downey Mayor Mario Guerra plans to issue an official announcement sometime next week. Meanwhile, the Boeing site in Long Beach continues negotiations to bring Long Beach Studios film company to their site. The Tesla deal promises 1,200 jobs. The Long Beach Studios deal promises between 2,500-3,000. In April, the LBPOST.com was the first to report Tesla's interest in moving to Long Beach when columnist Nancy Pfeffer attended the launch of the Model S in Los Angeles. The District Weekly has been a sharp critic of Long Beach’s apparent lack of effort to woo Tesla to build their Model S production plant at the Boeing site. Certainly, Downey made a very public push by visiting the carmaker’s headquarters and delivering a gift basket. Long Beach made no such proposal, save for a YouTube video created by Councilmember Gerrie Schipske that touted benefits the city could offer. Long Beach did have one distinct benefit: the promise of Enterprise Zones that would have exempted Tesla Motors from certain taxes. But Downey had another, perhaps equally potent advantage. The City of Downey actually owns about one-third of the NASA site that Tesla was considering, and therefore city officials could be directly involved in the negotiations. Long Beach does not own the Boeing site; Boeing does, and was the sole negotiator across the table from Tesla. Tesla Motors carries some considerable baggage of its own. The six-year old darling of the automotive world, still basking in the success of its $100,000+ electric Roadster S convertible, entered into a similar production agreement with the city of San Jose in the summer of 2008 – then scorned Silicon Valley when they backed out of the deal a few months later. Then, there’s money. Telsa is armed with $456 million in low-interest loans from the Department of Energy. But before that, they were down to their last couple of million dollars. Now, the automaker is about to be saddled with two massive expenses. First, that NASA site in Downey is worth a mighty sum, probably somewhere in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Even with a long-term lease, that’s a tough financial hurdle to clear. Of course, Tesla doesn’t have any choice but to acquire a facility like that, because they’ve promised to begin building the Model S in 2011. That’s a promise they’re bound to, because the company has already begun accepting deposits from potential Model S buyers before they’ve even developed a production facility for the car, much less a working prototype. The Model S, according to Tesla, will be completely designed and produced independently and with completely original parts. This is an important statement, because it generally costs the largest automakers at least hundreds of millions of dollars to design and produce an all-new platform. Tesla is promising to do so before even acquiring a facility – much less develop that facility. (It’s worth noting that the wildly popular Roadster S used a reworked Lotus chassis in order to cut down on costs, while the Model S will be constructed completely from the ground up.) In summation, Tesla has been accepting deposit payments for a car that is not yet built and does not have a developed production facility. The company will soon be on the hook for their massive real estate investment in the Downey property, and will potentially need to come up with hundreds of millions to produce the Model S. For a company depending on loans from the Department of Energy, that’s a lofty goal. Then came yesterday’s news that Tesla is planning to file for an initial public offering (IPO), the first for an American automaker in more than 60 years and a development that the Press-Telegram’s John Canalis today calls “unrelated” to the potential Downey deal. Of course, the two stories are very related as cash-strapped Tesla is considering the IPO in order to increase fundraising. The Los Angeles Times recently wondered whether, in this economic climate, that plan is feasible or not. The allure of an all-electric, practical, performance-inspired and downright beautiful automobile is magnetic, to say the least. Behind the curtain, things aren’t so simple. Tesla needs a lot more than an Energy loan to deliver on its promise to deliver the Model S sedan by 2011. Of course, skeptics doubted that the Roadster S would succeed, so maybe Tesla will prove us all wrong once again. But then, the allure of a movie studio in Long Beach was certainly magnetic, as well. Despite rumors this September that the deal was nearly complete, here we stand in November with a vacant Boeing property. Despite rumors today that Tesla is ready to shake hands with Downey, we’ll see where we stand in the coming weeks. Comments
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rallenr I wouldn't discount the effect the hacked global warming email incident's going to have on any business that's dependent on the global warming HOAX to sell product. If I was Tesla, I'd be pulling back from any commitments or investments unless Algore himself was handing me money. This incident's gone viral and the hoaxers are going to have a real bad year coming up. Dave in Alamitos Beach Better Downey than elsewhere in Southern California. And I'm hopeful that Long Beach can snare an electric car developer without some of the baggage that Tesla has. Maybe some company from Korea or Japan? ;-) Bill Orton The first answer is: "Life would not come to an end for the people of Long Beach." Indeed, if either community is selected as the manufacturing home for Tesla, the impact would be regional. Yes, one city will get a tax bump from having the facility in their jurisdiction, but the jobs will be a boon for the entire region. If Tesla goes with Long Beach, then good for LB. If Tesla goes with Downey, then good for Downey. This is a net positive for everyone. downey res the environmental movement is hardly a hoax. also remember, conservation and renewable energy is an economic movement built on new technologies with sustainable practices, even if there was no global warming we would still be in the right to be leading people in this direction. i dont understand how there can be naysayers. it's like saying, "NO to the Internet!!" Andy Kerr Good article. You seem to cover all the basis here. The only item I would add is the fact that Elon Musk has considerable personal wealth and he hasn't been shy to use it in his ventures to make them work. He is an impressive leader. Tesla's success thus far is a testament to that fact. And a side note--clean technology is not going away, and that's no "hoax." If Long Beach and our surrounding areas don't position ourselves as leaders in this growing field, we will be left behind. Sander Can we focus on new and proven companies already here in Long Beach? Green, tech, research-based, and manufacturing businesses abound. How about some coverage of them? Let's celebrate our successes, rather than crying over spilt milk. Phil I would prefer having the movie studio here. Tesla is an independent manufacturer and if the technology does prove to be popular, then the major auto companies will get involved, whch will leave companies like Tesla as insignificant and then small companies like Tesla will fold. CHARLIE So Long, good bye, siyanora for Long Beach, I'm afraid... lbjack Hoax or not, the alternate energy industry depends investors' placing their money on certain horses, on the assuming there's gonna be a race. Well, if there's no Day After Tomorrow, then no race, and horses like Tesla will wind up in the glue factory. Movies, on the other hand, are forever. Bob Foster didn't just climb off the turnip truck. CHARLIE Nor, lb Jack, did Bob Foster come in the last load of hay, however, I wonder how many of the clean air fans realize that horses manure gave off loads of methane gas? Which was a whole lot more offensive and bacteria laden, than Ford's exhaust, AND, which remained long after the horse had passed by until you shoveled it up or it rained - talk about a shovel ready job; This could help Obama,s job problem.:>) downey res Germany foresees electric vehicles becoming the norm within 15 years; the U.S. needs to stay competitive. the alternative energy "race" started a LONG time ago. Its because american car companies failed to join the race that they are ALL failing. Recall Foster! City Hall needs a wake up call. Long Beach is in a global competition for jobs and the resulting tax revenue. Once the Panama Canal expansion is completed, expect port traffic to wain. Our oil reserves are also reportedly in long term decline. Our version of the tourism industry; the Queen Mary, the Convention Center, the Pike, the Hyatt, and other loss-making downtown projects isn't a formula for the future. At best, tourism will generate some low paying jobs. Then again, who wants to visit a crumbling city whose downtown is full of vacant lots thanks to the redevelopment authority. Then there's the airport - an economic engine of growth in any other region - ignored, maligned, and beholden to people who bought their homes AFTER the airport was built. In Tesla, Long Beach had a high tech business looking for a new home - and our leaders ignored them. Is this acceptable on any level? Last time I checked, a movie studio is nothing more than a fancy warehouse - a shell. Is this the vision for the future of Long Beach? Foster Failed Foster Failed: We need jobs in Long Beach. I like it how some here want to dismiss this as "well who cares about the environment" pathetic! Foster Failed: No green job growth! No studio productions! Clean Trucks, ha! Tourism down! High unemployment! High homless rate! No affordable housing! Geez people, wake up!
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